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ricardo99
Avid Contributor I
July 28, 2009

Are you happy with the 3.0 update?

  • July 28, 2009
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Quite simple, lets get some numbers on all the chatter thats flying around. In order that Sonos can gauge some meaningful feedback please reply to this thread with your supporting opinions for your choice.

EDIT: Now I've put my mobile phone down and can type with both hands I'll finish this post off properly.

I voted NO as I believe the perception that has been given and supported is that we, the users, will get our idea's turned into tweaks/new features/upgrades etc. through the Sound Idea's forum. Given that the fact that the last two updates have had very few changes to the system (i.e. Not new services) I fear that the focus on this may have drifted. I understand the current world economic situation means that luxury products suchs as Sonos will be put aside for essential purchase and that Sonos will and must look to increase it's user base to survive doesnt mean that we, as existing users cannot express our dissapointment at this shift. My hopes for the future are that the new controller, which I think is fantastic, will bring better and more wider ranging upgrades, the appearance of the more music feature gives me this hope.

This is nothing to do with it being free, not screwing my system up, or it continuing to do what it should, it is about perception and expectations.....and presently results are falling short of my expectations

There you go, sermon over.....

Are you happy with update 3.0?

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    justintime
    Avid Contributor I
    August 2, 2009
    I'd hold off an wait a little... suggest you don't update to 3.0 because with older hardware and old controller CR100 you won't see any benefits... furthermore, I have noticed some issues with the 3.0 upgrade myself, to the point that I regret upgrading altogether.

    That's just *my* opinion, and no one else's, but since you're asking for opinions, there you have it!

    I also agree 100% I wish Sonos would release technical notes on each upgrade... that's quite common thing to do in this 'market', and we all know electronics and software are not perfect, so no point in hiding the fixed bugs. In fact, I'd say its a positive feeling to see bugs listed and fixed!

    In my case, I have found several things that I am trying to troubleshoot in 3.0, but since I have no tech notes I am just 'blind'... I notice differences in the scrollwheel code, (annoying!) but no release notes to even determine whether there was intentional change or not... oh well, it's a real waste of my time, but I want the product to improve -- so I don't give up.

    Does anyone know if there were any bug fixes with 3.0?

    It seemed like when I went to 2.8, the sonos seemed to hang more often, whether it was internet radio, pandora or streaming from my music library. Since I have old hardware, is there any benefit to go to 3.0? The release notes are very generic.

    It would be great to see the engineering version of them that showed what was fixed and any know limitations. I understand they probably would not want to release notes that may sound like the product has problems but for techies like me, I would find it beneficial...
    Avid Contributor I
    August 2, 2009
    Voted yes because it updated and not much changed and it simply worked as before. Usually products 'upgrades' breaks things and makes a product a newfound Time Vampire. If i wanted another Time Vampire, i'd get Sony's "Stupid POS That Doesn't Do the G.D. Thing It's... Supposed To".

    As for the icons, seems like someone was going for classic old-school European. My opinion of the icons... meh.

    (Humor below)
    In the future, the Bathroom icon would be a man standing in front of the toilet doing his business.

    Livingroom could be a HUGE flat panel TV.. or an extensive drumset/percussion in my case. An optional icon could be a Lay-Z-Boy recliner and a 6-pack of beer.

    Master Bedroom could be an icon of, eh hem, a swing.

    Office should be an icon of Satan... or a jail cell. Bonus points if you make it a rotating gif between the two images.

    Kitchen could be an image of butcher's knife... or classic La Pavoni hand/manual cappuccino machine (preferably the gold one with rosewood handles. Très magnifique!).

    Outdoor should be an icon of a butterfly, or swimming pool... or that Chevy on blocks that is rusting away. Added bonus points if the icon's rust slowly envelopes the car.

    Garage should be an image of a Ferrari... or wife's Soccer Mom thing because, well, she gets her half of the garage as my half is filled with commercial-grade tall Craftsman toolboxes, garbage cans, the bicycles, various outdoor sports equipment... and this big box of assorted 'stuff' that must weight 75 lbs we never use yet must never be thrown out either.
    Contributor III
    August 2, 2009
    I'd hold off an wait a little... suggest you don't update to 3.0 because with older hardware and old controller CR100 you won't see any benefits... furthermore, I have noticed some issues with the 3.0 upgrade myself, to the point that I regret upgrading altogether.


    Thanks, read a bunch of different posts and decided to hold off on the code load...
    RO53BEN
    Enthusiast II
    August 3, 2009
    I'd hold off an wait a little... suggest you don't update to 3.0 because with older hardware and old controller CR100 you won't see any benefits... furthermore, I have noticed some issues with the 3.0 upgrade myself, to the point that I regret upgrading altogether.

    That's just *my* opinion, and no one else's, but since you're asking for opinions, there you have it!


    I agree, hold off on the upgrade unless you need to use a CR200.


    I also agree 100% I wish Sonos would release technical notes on each upgrade...


    +1
    I am no longer active on these forums, DM me if you have a question, I'd be happy to help.
    Avid Contributor I
    August 3, 2009
    Garage should be an image of a Ferrari... or wife's Soccer Mom thing

    so your Ferrari is relegated to parking on the street, eh? 😉
    Lyricist I
    August 3, 2009
    I LOVE Sonos, am probably one of its best walking commercials as we entertain a lot. On this new update to 3.0 (I'm on the original controller) I can no longer simply select a playlist with the wheel button and add to cue. I have to scroll through playlist and then remember to select the bottom row button for "Add to queue". I'm sure I'll get used to it, but I do wish Sonos and Apple would get cozier as in general the interface is still clunky. I would also like to control the view of my playlists more. We have three different computers in the house feeding the system, and I'd love more control over the imported playlists as far as what is seen etc.
    jgatie
    August 3, 2009
    I LOVE Sonos, am probably one of its best walking commercials as we entertain a lot. On this new update to 3.0 (I'm on the original controller) I can no longer simply select a playlist with the wheel button and add to cue. I have to scroll through playlist and then remember to select the bottom row button for "Add to queue". I'm sure I'll get used to it, but I do wish Sonos and Apple would get cozier as in general the interface is still clunky. I would also like to control the view of my playlists more. We have three different computers in the house feeding the system, and I'd love more control over the imported playlists as far as what is seen etc.

    This has been acknowledged by Sonos and is being looked into. Here's the thread:

    CR100 missing 'All Tracks' under Imported Playlists in 3.0
    Enthusiast II
    August 3, 2009
    1. right after the update, all 3 CR100 controllers have a slow/delayed volume indicators.
    2. do NOT like the "more music" listing, just adds more visual noise, and I'd like to be able to delete that as I've already set the services I want.
    3. Sonos Playlists now don't function correctly on all 3 CR100s, and playlist just disappear for no apparent reason.

    Net, this is NOT an improvement but a downgrade for my current system.

    TS claims that 3.0 did not cause these issues.
    Hope they find a way to let some of us go back to 2.8 which worked well for my system.
    Contributor II
    August 5, 2009
    I just noticed that the new icons for zones appear only on the Desktop Controller (Windows) and not on the CR100 controllers which still show the more distinctive icons such as a carton of popcorn (media room) and a computer (office).

    Maybe another thing that slipped through QA, but I do prefer the old icons.


    I also don't like the new icons in the WIN app, the old icons were a much more clearer indication of the rooms!

    Sonos, for sake of clarity please gives us the old icons back!
    Avid Contributor I
    August 5, 2009
    so your Ferrari is relegated to parking on the street, eh? ;-)

    Well, since you asked... Actually it was sold because the Formula 2000 was so much better at the road course tracks i frequent.