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February 16, 2022
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Songs stop playing at end of songs

  • February 16, 2022
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Strange problem.  I have a pair of Fives.  If I’m playing ripped music from the Apple music app on my iPad or iPhone, or from the Amazon Prime app on either, it will play a handful of songs, and then stop.  It’s always at the end of a song, never in the middle, and happens pretty much every time I use it.  It might be after two, three, four, five, etc.  No consistency.  I use my iPhone daily in my car with CarPlay, and it’s never happened.  I also have a HomePod in my office that I stream to from my iPhone (also AirPlay), and it’s never happened there either.  So it’s two different music sources, two different devices, and only with the Sonos speakers.  I also have the Sonos skill setup and can stream from an Echo, and that never stops.  Anyone else experience this?

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Best answer by Ken_Griffiths

There used to be complaints about iOS devices stopping airplay if a call, or a notification, was received, or they fell asleep etc; but I assume those issues are long-since fixed, unless there’s something peculiar with iPhone 13 / iPad Pro etc. to help them save on battery life -

I’ve not got much running in memory on my iOS devices here and they fallback to ‘Lock Screen’ after 2 minutes - but there are so many iOS settings that might be playing a role.

I can add, that I have disabled Private Address, Screen Time, WiFi calling and some notifications and location services, but I can’t say if any of these things might be the culprit in your case. I do allow the Sonos App/Amazon Music App to run in the background.

Anyhow I would perhaps first try another network subnet with a different router/brand and see what happens in that case (if that’s an option you can stretch to) - if the issue persists, then maybe consider a closer look at the iOS devices, though the fact it happens using your iPhone and iPad Pro is a factor that points more towards it being a router issue, perhaps? 

I have the iPad Pro (3rd Gen) here too (model FTEL2B/A) and I’ve not noticed any Airplay issues with that device… so see if putting things onto a different Router sorts your problem.

27 replies

pyoung62Author
Trending Lyricist I
February 18, 2022

Update:  I disabled MAC address spoofing.  No change.  Before I moved on to the next suggestion, I noticed something else likely related.  When it gets to the point where it stops playing at the end of a song (Fixing a Hole from Sgt. Pepper in this case), when I look at the Apple Music app and at the Sonos app, both are showing it still playing in the middle of the previous song (Getting Better in this case).  If I tap the skip to the next song arrow, it starts playing Fixing a Hole again.  While I haven’t confirmed this exact same oddity with the Amazon Prime app, I do experience the same issue with stopping at the end of a song with it, so I don’t think this is an Apple Music app bug.  It also is not device specific since I have the same issue with my iPhone 13 Pro and my iPad Pro, both running 15.3.1.  Seems to be some sort of AirPlay feedback issue maybe?

Airgetlam
February 18, 2022

I’d suggest it’s some sort of wifi interference issue, where the speaker is losing connection to the network, and playing the rest of its buffer before dropping. The fact that it’s not showing the correct playback information in the controller certainly suggests some sort of interruption between the speaker and your router, or your router and the controller device. The controller should be reflecting what is happening at the moment on your speaker. If it’s not “current”, it suggests some sort of disconnect. 

Bruce
Airgetlam
February 18, 2022

Just as a random thought, and looking back on Ken and my responses, I don’t see a simple network refresh being suggested. Unplug all your Sonos devices from power, then reboot the router. Once the router comes back up, plug back in all the Sonos devices. This forces them to get new IP addresses from the router’s refreshed DHCP table….it’s possible that duplicate IP addresses could be at the root of this issue, unless you’ve got reserved IP addresses, in which case this process wouldn’t help. 

Bruce
pyoung62Author
Trending Lyricist I
February 18, 2022

Good suggestion.  I may go ahead and assign them static IPs just to eliminate this possibility.

Airgetlam
February 18, 2022

Eliminating that as a possibility is an excellent step. Could be the issue, may not be, but knocking down those potentials one at a time should help the honing in process :)

Would that networking was not so complex…. 

Bruce
pyoung62Author
Trending Lyricist I
February 19, 2022

No love.  Got them both and static IPs and stopped after the second song.  The frustrating thing is I’ll work on my home office 3-4 days a week with it streaming to my HomePod all day long and have never had so much as a hiccup.

pyoung62Author
Trending Lyricist I
February 19, 2022

 Meant to say “got them both on static IPs”.

Airgetlam
February 19, 2022

At least we’ve removed that as a possibility. So, the next time it happens, I would recommend that you submit a system diagnostic within 10 minutes of experiencing this problem, and call Sonos Support to discuss it.

There is likely to be information included in the diagnostic that will help Sonos pinpoint the issue and help you find a solution.

Unfortunately, none of us unwashed outsiders from Sonos have access to that hard data….I’m assuming there’s liable to be personally identifiable information in it, and for legal reasons, they don’t want us to see. 

When you speak directly to the phone folks, they have tools at their disposal that will allow them to give you advice specific to your Sonos system and network.

Bruce
Ken_Griffiths
February 19, 2022

Update:  I disabled MAC address spoofing.  No change.  Before I moved on to the next suggestion, I noticed something else likely related.  When it gets to the point where it stops playing at the end of a song (Fixing a Hole from Sgt. Pepper in this case), when I look at the Apple Music app and at the Sonos app, both are showing it still playing in the middle of the previous song (Getting Better in this case).  If I tap the skip to the next song arrow, it starts playing Fixing a Hole again.  While I haven’t confirmed this exact same oddity with the Amazon Prime app, I do experience the same issue with stopping at the end of a song with it, so I don’t think this is an Apple Music app bug.  It also is not device specific since I have the same issue with my iPhone 13 Pro and my iPad Pro, both running 15.3.1.  Seems to be some sort of AirPlay feedback issue maybe?

Admittedly, I find what you describe here with the playing track ‘progress bar’ in both mobile Apps as showing something isn’t quite right - it is almost like the playing mobile device has lost its connection halfway through the playing track. Is there any type of security software or VPN running on your mobile devices?

pyoung62Author
Trending Lyricist I
February 19, 2022

Nope.  No VPN, adblock, adguard, or any other security apps on either on either device.

I went ahead and submitted a diagnostic to Sonos (I can reproduce the problem very easily - not sure I’ve ever played an entire CD uninterrupted).  Contacted support, and they were of no use whatsoever.  They said there was nothing abnormal in the diagnostic report, and no indication of wireless interference.  They best they came up with was “maybe it’s a limitation of AirPlay, and we can’t control that”.  I let them know that 1) I’ve been streaming from the same devices to my HomePod on the same WiFi network for two years and never had an issue, and 2) if it’s an AirPlay limitation, and Sonos only allows AirPlay and not BlueTooth, that makes it a Sonos limitation and the devices therefore useless to me.  Obviously, I’m not buying that theory.  In the end, they gave me nothing to go on except suggesting a factory reset.  And given they saw no reason to indicate that was going to fix anything, that’s not a solution.  That’s just shotgunning it.  These may be going back to Best Buy.  I'm pretty frustrated as there are no other AirPlay speaker options out there with the sound quality of the Fives.