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turntable with low hum

  • December 28, 2021
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just set up the Sonos 5 speaker. Our existing turntable and Optimus amp work just fine on our old speaker. We wanted to upgrade to the Sonos 5… but when hooked up, there is a terrible low hum that gets louder with volume increase and is persistent when the record is finished or in-between songs when there is no sound. 

the grounding wire is fine and like I say, does NOT have the buzz with the older speakers. 

So what are we doing wrong? Or is our system no compatible with the Sonos 5? 

We do NOT get the buzz with any of the other features, meaning the streaming music, etc. Only when using the record player. 

If we can’t fix I guess we just go back to the old speakers because that hum is giving us a headache. 

 

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  • Lead Maestro
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  • December 29, 2021

What model turntable are you using?


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  • Contributor I
  • 6 replies
  • December 29, 2021

Pioneer 1978. Mint condition.


ratty
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  • December 29, 2021

Where’s the grounding wire? On the TT itself or on a preamp? 


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  • Contributor I
  • 6 replies
  • December 29, 2021

Not sure what TT is but the grounding wire goes from the turntable to the amp. 


ratty
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  • December 29, 2021

TT = turntable.

Amp or preamp? When connecting a turntable to a Five you’d just need a preamp. Kindly describe what’s connected to what. Is there a main amp still in the picture? Is there an external ground anywhere? 


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  • Contributor I
  • 6 replies
  • December 29, 2021

The turntable is from 1978. Doesn’t have a preamp. Has grounding wire connected (not removable) coming from back of TT as well as the red and white connectors that are also going into the amp at the “phono” connection. Grounding wire to the amp as well. It is a Optimus SA-155 integrated stereo amplifier. Then amp is connected to the Sonos 5 via a “speakers” red and white (R/L) cord. 


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  • Contributor I
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  • December 29, 2021

 


ratty
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  • December 29, 2021

You shouldn’t be using a ‘speakers’ output at all. It’s a wonder that the Five’s input wasn’t overloaded. The Five expects a line level signal.

Try using the Tape Out instead.


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  • Contributor I
  • 6 replies
  • December 29, 2021

Ok. So using the “tape out” we have to turn the volume up to 88 to hear at a low/medium volume. The low hum is still there, just quite a bit quieter. Still annoying to the ear unfortunately. 


ratty
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  • December 29, 2021

From the photo you appear to have the amp set for a ceramic cartridge. Is that really what’s fitted to the turntable? I haven’t seen one in decades. 

The amp itself is pretty ancient. The turntable is grounded to the amp but it doesn’t look like the amp is grounded to the electrical supply. 

 

By the way the Five’s Line-In does have an adjustable sensitivity. See Source Level in its room settings. 


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  • Contributor I
  • 6 replies
  • December 31, 2021

Yes ceramic. If switched to the other it is terrible sounding. 
we did the source level per your instructions and it really just changes the hum but doesn’t eliminate. Unless there is anything else to do we will be returning. We love the other features of the Sonos 5 but want to continue using our current record player. Really appreciate your help trouble shooting this! 


ratty
  • 31405 replies
  • December 31, 2021

You could try connecting the ceramic cartridge directly to the Five, removing the ancient amp entirely.  The level may be adequate, though you might need some manual EQ. 

The rest of your kit is decidedly ‘vintage’ so I can understand why you might want to stick with what you know.