Luma wifi is about to be released and looks like a great product. Can Sonos and Luma both create mesh networks that work together or will there be interference? I assume they will work, right?! A wifi mesh will be on a different frequency than the Sonos mesh, right? Luma looks like the solution many of us could use if it works as effectively as Sonos does with its own mesh. Opinions?
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Will Sonos work with Luma wifi?
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The Luma only has two Ethernet ports marked IN and OUT and a USB connection. After monkeying around with all sorts of workarounds I gave up and scrapped the whole Sonos setup I had. Powered off all the elements and tried just getting one Play1 connected to the LUMA network. Disabled my antivirus and firewall on my PC and uninstalled the Sonos program. Still couldn't connect to the unit either as an existing system or new system in the setup options using the iphone and iphone app even after a fresh install of the app.
-> Did a factory reset of the Play1 and was finally able to setup a new Sonos system linked in to the LUMA network. Factory resetting each of the other two Play1's and adding them to my newly created system was successful. I then reinstalled the PC Sonos program and was able to have it find the new 3 unit system. I've lost all my playlists, stations, music services, and alarms and had to reindex my music library but I'm up and running. Next I just have to figure out how to add my other non-Play1 units back (ZP120 and ZP90). As you can see I have gotten them over on to the 192.168.55.xxx network this way:
Associated ZP: 192.168.55.158
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PLAY:1: Master Bedroom
Serial Number: B8-E9-37-8A-B5-E0:3
Version: 6.3 (build 321130071)
Hardware Version: 1.8.3.7-1
IP Address: 192.168.55.121
WM: 1
OTP:
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PLAY:1: Micaela's Room
Serial Number: 00-0E-58-C9-5B-38:B
Version: 6.3 (build 321130071)
Hardware Version: 1.8.3.7-1
IP Address: 192.168.55.158
WM: 1
OTP:
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PLAY:1: Office
Serial Number: 5C-AA-FD-23-EA-5E:4
Version: 6.3 (build 321130071)
Hardware Version: 1.8.3.7-1
IP Address: 192.168.55.160
WM: 1
OTP:
-> Did a factory reset of the Play1 and was finally able to setup a new Sonos system linked in to the LUMA network. Factory resetting each of the other two Play1's and adding them to my newly created system was successful. I then reinstalled the PC Sonos program and was able to have it find the new 3 unit system. I've lost all my playlists, stations, music services, and alarms and had to reindex my music library but I'm up and running. Next I just have to figure out how to add my other non-Play1 units back (ZP120 and ZP90). As you can see I have gotten them over on to the 192.168.55.xxx network this way:
Associated ZP: 192.168.55.158
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PLAY:1: Master Bedroom
Serial Number: B8-E9-37-8A-B5-E0:3
Version: 6.3 (build 321130071)
Hardware Version: 1.8.3.7-1
IP Address: 192.168.55.121
WM: 1
OTP:
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PLAY:1: Micaela's Room
Serial Number: 00-0E-58-C9-5B-38:B
Version: 6.3 (build 321130071)
Hardware Version: 1.8.3.7-1
IP Address: 192.168.55.158
WM: 1
OTP:
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PLAY:1: Office
Serial Number: 5C-AA-FD-23-EA-5E:4
Version: 6.3 (build 321130071)
Hardware Version: 1.8.3.7-1
IP Address: 192.168.55.160
WM: 1
OTP:
Ok, probably my last post. I was able to use the factory reset process on the zoneplayer (Connect, and Connect:Amp) devices and get them all working correctly too, so all is well with the world. I wish there was an easier way but having done it I can only hope it helps someone else down the line that needs to do the same thing.
Here's my experience getting LUMA to play nicely in the sandbox with Sonos. Because there is so little literature on the topic at this point, my eventual success was mostly the product of trial and error. My setup is the ubiquitous antiquated MI424WR Verizon Actiontec cable modem/router. I have the following paired Sonos components: 2 sets of paired Play 1s, 1 set of paired Play 5s (1st edition), and 2 Sonos Connects. With the new wireless network, I had previously removed the Ethernet cable from my Play 5 located closest to the router. Once I installed all 3 LUMAs from my newly arrived 3-pack, and without any adjustments to my Verizon router settings, my Sonos app could no longer find the Sonos network. I tinkered with a variety of solutions, getting one pair of Play 1's to be recognized when my phone was in close proximity to them. However, as soon as I walked about 30 feet away, the phone app. could once again no longer find the Sonos network.
Well to make a long story short, with several solutions proving to be dead ends, I decided to plug an ethernet cable from the back of one of my Play 5 stereo pairs (the one that had formerly been plugged into the Actiontec router before Sonos went completely wireless) into the OUT port on the back of the LUMA, The In port of that device was plugged into my Actiontec router. All my Sonos components magically appeared. Moreover, I was able to travel throughout the house and even into my backyard without losing the connection to the Sonos components. I note that I did this first without disabling the wireless on the Actiontec router. That's the curious thing about LUMA - although you can run it as your only wireless, it appears you don't have to. Effectively, this means you can have some components on your 192.168.1.XX Actiontec DNS range, and others on the LUMA 192.168.55.XX range.
But my next test was to see if it would still work when I turned off the wireless on the Actiontec router. (I note that keeping the Actiontec wireless enabled effectively circumvented LUMA's ability to cut off internet service; devices would just reroute to the Actiontec router.) So I wanted to see if I could maintain my Sonos connection after disabling the wireless on the router. With the Play 5 now plugged into the LUMA and the LUMA, in turn, plugged into an open LAN port in the back of my router, I was pleased to see that the Sonos app continued to work even after the Actiontec wireless was set to off.
In sum, the simple, if not intuitive, solution turned out to be the best. No resetting the controllers or fooling around with the DNS server ended up being necessary. Just a spare ethernet cord was all it took.
Incidentally, while I am not blown away by the speed of the LUMA (which never seems to change according to the app and seems to be about double what my Speedtest app says it is), I am impressed by its range. I have a 4000 square foot house with very poor wifi range using the Actiontec router. With the 3 LUMAs strategically placed on the left, center and right sides of the houses, I was able to get excellent coverage throughout the house and a good 50 feet into the backyard. That alone has made the purchase worthwhile.
Hope this helps.
Well to make a long story short, with several solutions proving to be dead ends, I decided to plug an ethernet cable from the back of one of my Play 5 stereo pairs (the one that had formerly been plugged into the Actiontec router before Sonos went completely wireless) into the OUT port on the back of the LUMA, The In port of that device was plugged into my Actiontec router. All my Sonos components magically appeared. Moreover, I was able to travel throughout the house and even into my backyard without losing the connection to the Sonos components. I note that I did this first without disabling the wireless on the Actiontec router. That's the curious thing about LUMA - although you can run it as your only wireless, it appears you don't have to. Effectively, this means you can have some components on your 192.168.1.XX Actiontec DNS range, and others on the LUMA 192.168.55.XX range.
But my next test was to see if it would still work when I turned off the wireless on the Actiontec router. (I note that keeping the Actiontec wireless enabled effectively circumvented LUMA's ability to cut off internet service; devices would just reroute to the Actiontec router.) So I wanted to see if I could maintain my Sonos connection after disabling the wireless on the router. With the Play 5 now plugged into the LUMA and the LUMA, in turn, plugged into an open LAN port in the back of my router, I was pleased to see that the Sonos app continued to work even after the Actiontec wireless was set to off.
In sum, the simple, if not intuitive, solution turned out to be the best. No resetting the controllers or fooling around with the DNS server ended up being necessary. Just a spare ethernet cord was all it took.
Incidentally, while I am not blown away by the speed of the LUMA (which never seems to change according to the app and seems to be about double what my Speedtest app says it is), I am impressed by its range. I have a 4000 square foot house with very poor wifi range using the Actiontec router. With the 3 LUMAs strategically placed on the left, center and right sides of the houses, I was able to get excellent coverage throughout the house and a good 50 feet into the backyard. That alone has made the purchase worthwhile.
Hope this helps.
User108155,
In your original configuration, SONOS to the ACTIONTEC and everything else to LUMA, you had two routers attempting to take control of your network -- each attempting to protect your network from the other router. SONOS cannot operate in this sort of environment. As you found, moving the SONOS to the LUMA essentially eliminates the ACTIONTEC router and everything works fine -- as long as you keep the ACTIONTEC's wireless turned OFF. You might experience slightly better throughput and better interaction with some multi-user games if you set the ACTIONTEC's port connected to the LUMA as a "DMZ".
In your original configuration, SONOS to the ACTIONTEC and everything else to LUMA, you had two routers attempting to take control of your network -- each attempting to protect your network from the other router. SONOS cannot operate in this sort of environment. As you found, moving the SONOS to the LUMA essentially eliminates the ACTIONTEC router and everything works fine -- as long as you keep the ACTIONTEC's wireless turned OFF. You might experience slightly better throughput and better interaction with some multi-user games if you set the ACTIONTEC's port connected to the LUMA as a "DMZ".
User108155, Your solve saved my butt after a few days of wrestling with different configurations. I actually had a Bridge in the mix—connected to my router—which I knew was outdated but kept anyway. Now it's gone! I've turned off the wifi in my router (well, I've actually made it invisible, just in case I need it if Luma goes out again). Now everything is playing well together: Sonos and Luma and my regular router. It's only since that last Luma update this past month where everything went haywire. I do like Buzz's reco to set my LUMA connection as a DMZ. Just have to figure that out now. Thank god for google.
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