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May 1, 2020
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Sonos on Meraki wireless

I’m an IT engineer and have an enterprise class wireless network in my home.  I have 3 Meraki access points all broadcasting the same SSID with 2.4 and 5Ghz enabled.  Each access point is on a separate channel following WiFi best practice of 1, 6 and 11.  I would prefer to run Sonos in wireless mode but that doesn’t work, I get all kinds of sporadic behavior.  So I have been forced to run in SonosNet mode and using channel 11 for SonosNet.  Which still of course conflicts with my AP on channel 11 but at least it is the farthest away from any Sonos speaker.  Has anyone successfully got Sonos working on a Meraki wireless setup with 3 or more AP’s?

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    Stanley_4
    Grand Maestro
    May 1, 2020

    Probably, all you would need to do is put all three on the same channel as long as the other Sonos restrictions are being met.

    I don’t know Meraki but I have Ubiquity APs and dialing back their capabilities to meet the Sonos restrictions just didn’t make sense to me so I moved to Boost mode with several Sonos wired and reset my APs to leave a channel clear for my Sonos.

    willettjAuthor
    Trending Lyricist I
    May 5, 2020

    Thanks Stanley, How many Ubiquity AP’s do you have in the house?  If you only have 2 I can see where it would be easy to reserve a channel for SonosNet.

    Stanley_4
    Grand Maestro
    May 5, 2020

    The number of 2.4 GHz APs here has varied from 1 to 3 over the years, today I’m down to just one for my 2.4 GHz use, connecting to an older printer.

    If you don’t reserve a channel for Sonos you’ll be competing between the AP and the SonosNet mesh for bandwidth. If you could put your most distant and lowest traffic AP on the SonosNet channel you’d have the lowest level of conflict.

    With only 3 non-conflicting channels 2.4 GHZ has never really worked well for multi-AP setups unless you can lay them out in a straight line to keep the interference down. Maybe if you fool with the power levels you can get something working using just two channels?

    https://documentation.meraki.com/MR/WiFi_Basics_and_Best_Practices/Channel_Planning_Best_Practices

    Don’t forget, having all APs on the same channel is a Sonos requirement for Standard Mode (WiFI) use, you can only put your APs on different channels in Boost Mode. So in Boost you at lest get to use at least two AP channels.

    willettjAuthor
    Trending Lyricist I
    May 5, 2020

    Ok thanks. I’m still scratching my head that Sonos advocates for multiple AP’s on the same channel.. completely against WiFi best practices. I’ll investigate enabling Boost mode

    willettjAuthor
    Trending Lyricist I
    May 5, 2020

    I think what you are calling Boost mode is the same as SonosNet correct? Having one speaker wired? That’s how I am running now. I’m not interested in adding the Boost hardware AP from Sonos.

    willettjAuthor
    Trending Lyricist I
    May 5, 2020

    If I have 3 wired speakers and the rest unwired, will each of the unwired have to associate with the same wired speaker, or whichever wired speaker Is closest?

    ratty
    May 6, 2020

    I’m still scratching my head that Sonos advocates for multiple AP’s on the same channel.. completely against WiFi best practices.

    For optimal group performance Sonos units communicate directly peer-to-peer, even in WiFi mode. This can’t happen if units are tuned to APs on different channels.

    willettjAuthor
    Trending Lyricist I
    May 6, 2020

    I’m still scratching my head that Sonos advocates for multiple AP’s on the same channel.. completely against WiFi best practices.

    For optimal group performance Sonos units communicate directly peer-to-peer, even in WiFi mode. This can’t happen if units are tuned to APs on different channels.

    Thanks ratty, I’m still trying to optimize my Sonos network, tweaking STP now, you had given me a note a year ago about paying attention to 802.1D and 802.1W.  My Meraki switch runs RSTP, but I can manually disable RSTP per port, so I am doing that for all ports wired to Sonos devices and will see how that reacts.  Also to note I have set the bridge priority of the Meraki switch to 4096.

    Collaborator II
    May 6, 2020

    If I have 3 wired speakers and the rest unwired, will each of the unwired have to associate with the same wired speaker, or whichever wired speaker Is closest?

     

    You should only ever have one Sonos device wired to network, either the Boost or one of the speakers or other devices (Amp, Port, etc.)   That single device will provide internet to the entire system over the SonosNet mesh.   Having multiple Sonos devices wired to network WILL CAUSE PROBLEMS!

    Each Sonos device will still get a unique IP and will be visible as unique devices on your network. 

    P.S.  I have 8 Sonos devices in my home, with a single one wired to my network.  I also have an Eero Pro mesh system in my home with multiple access points.  Everything is setup with default/vanilla configuration.  Everything works great and my Sonos system hasn’t had a “drop” in the year since I’ve set it up.

    willettjAuthor
    Trending Lyricist I
    May 6, 2020

    If I have 3 wired speakers and the rest unwired, will each of the unwired have to associate with the same wired speaker, or whichever wired speaker Is closest?

     

    You should only ever have one Sonos device wired to network, either the Boost or one of the speakers or other devices (Amp, Connect, etc.)   That single device will provide internet to the entire system over the SonosNet mesh.   Having multiple Sonos devices wired to network WILL CAUSE PROBLEMS!

    Each Sonos device will still get a unique IP and will be visible as unique devices on your network. 

    This is not correct based on info I have received from other users.. I have a large house and some speakers can’t reach the others via wireless, so I need more than one device wired.