Need Home WiFi + Hardwired with NO SonosNet

Important additional note: surrounds/sub cannot connect to Home WiFi, correct?  They have to be direct to the source (Amp).  If they could use home wifi then I could plug Amp in and turn its wifi off.  This is always traumatic because when I do, everything switches over to SonosNet before I get wifi disabled, and it takes unplugging every device often to get it to go back to Home WiFi.

I think we've explained everything on your other threads, in considerable detail. You might care to go over them again. 

But just in case it needs repeating… check the replies in your other threads on this subject. 

@benn600, 

The issue mentioned mostly only arises with HT devices, because if you cable standalone, or paired, sonos devices, then their WiFi adapters can be disabled to stop them using/initiating a wireless SonosNet signal. A Sonos Home theatre setup however, would need every device in its bonded setup wired (ideally back to the same switch/router) and that’s usually impractical for many folk, otherwise the surrounds and sub need the (normal) ad-hoc 5Ghz WiFi connection between themselves and the master device… it’s not good practice to wire a surround in most cases and I would not personally recommend that, it also defeats why we each choose to buy a wireless multi-room audio system in the first place. 

I still remain surprised that you were not able to use your reasonably sized Sonos system in Sonosnet mode with your Boost (or some other Sonos product) only wired to your router, with no devices wired to your Orbi satellite hubs, or that you could not get your setup to run entirely on your Orbi WiFi signal whilst set in bridged (access point) mode, which is the type of setup I currently use with my Plume mesh WiFi-5 (4 hubs) and an ISP provided router.

It almost makes me think that something else might possibly be amiss elsewhere, within your local wired/wireless network setup. Are you sure you have carefully followed all the suggested points highlighted in your other threads by @ratty and the others?

Yeah I’ve looked at them.  What I will try next is unplugging Orbi so there is no other wifi at all.  Then I’ll run Sonos in SonosNet with one device plugged in and nothing else.

I mean yeah it’s fun to repeat that we’ve shared all the suggestions possible, but it still is disappointing when neither configuration option works fully.  They are all mediocre at best and do not deliver on the promise of reliable multi-room audio everywhere.

Everyone talks about WiFi and what mode my WiFi is in, etc., but why does that matter?  Why does it matter if my WiFi is in bridge mode?  I have a separate DHCP server and my WiFi access point does not handle internet routing either.  I feel like everything gets dumbed down to the lowest common denominator, and you’re also assuming that a person has WiFi.  So if I take that out of the mix, then we can just eliminate that.

I just have to psych myself up because switching back and forth between modes is traumatizing and often requires me throwing my breaker panel a couple of times to get everything to restart, not to mention the time required to make the hardware adjustments necessary.  But I’ll give it a go because so far, nothing has worked reliably.

And you are all telling me that if you stream an apple music song to all zones (with every mobile zone powered on) that you hear the first chord, and it plays continuously everywhere with no issues.  Then when you randomly pick a new song, it also starts playing within a few seconds, hearing the first chord, and no drop outs?  And you can stream your home theater movie source to all zones, also, with 99%+ reliability?  I’m reasonable and can live with hopefully less than 1% drop outs on this because I know the timeliness of getting all the packets everywhere.

The funny thing, though, is that my primary node that will be plugged in does actually get a strong signal to every other speaker.  Green and rarely flashing yellow in the status page.  So this really shouldn’t be that complicated.  No double hops for anything.

Nobody has told me yet, what I need to order on Amazon to do wireless interference testing?  I don’t care what it costs, just tell me what will answer this question so that can be eliminated -- as it was a bullet point on all of your helpful lists.

@benn600, i have to ask:  Why do you keep asking for our help, then questioning the help you are given?  Either take the help as offered, or go do your own thing.  Either way, stop wasting our time with your nonsense.

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What have I not tried that was suggested?  I followed every numeric list that was provided in my 4 threads and went down each path that was suggested.  Are there no more suggestions?  Repeatedly I was told that if it doesn’t work then there is just too much wireless interference.  So I ask how do I confirm this is the cause?  People seem to be dodging the tough questions.  Is it possible that I’m just asking too much of the system?  Everyone says my system isn’t that large — okay so tell me how large your system is and how reliable it is?  And not 32 Amps in a rack mount all connected via Ethernet.  I’m talking mostly/all wireless.  Everyone is conveniently glossing over the challenging questions and saying I’m not willing to try what was suggested.  The 5-10 bullet point lists provided to me?  Yeah, I went through them meticulously one-by-one.

The first thing I did 2 months ago was unplug every Ethernet cable and go fully wireless SonosNet with tech support — long before I joined the forum.  It was laughably unusable.  And no it wasn’t on the same channel as my wifi.

But still, I’m seeking a solution with or without everyone’s help.  Just because you’re disgruntled, losing it, ego-bruised, and out of ideas doesn’t mean there isn’t a solution out there.  I switched to Sonos 5 years ago because a competitor product wasn’t delivering.  They have taken leaps and bounds since then, so another diagnostic step I should take is building out my system with their hardware.  If Sonos just can’t deliver on this baseline of expectation.

More proof you don't listen?  There's no such thing as "fully wireless Sonosnet". 🙄  

And it's not my ego that is the problem here.  Not by a longshot.  But hey, why not insult the people you want to help you?  Seems like a real productive approach.

PS - I could get you running fine in about a half hour or so, but I don't help people who throw abuse on me.  I'm kind of funny like that.  As a matter of fact, I suggest all the regulars should stop putting up with your insults and simply stop helping you.

“Fully wireless SonosNet” means that I have a Beam and Sub both plugged into the same 8-port switch.  I asked why on earth these can’t communicate over Ethernet?  Even massive rack mount installs have a dozen Amps all hardwired.  But they’re all somehow allowed and authorized.  But not me!  I did what some of you suggested and unplugged the Sub so everything was headless with only one device plugged into my router.

I followed every piece of advice and went down every diagnostic step.  It still doesn’t work.  So I ask basic questions like someone give me an anecdotal example of anything close to my setup working and I just hear radio silence.  I don’t think most people hit play everywhere in large installs.  This all works fine for 2-4 zones.  It’s setup as it should be, but crumbles.  Some bandwidth limitation somewhere is getting exceeded.

I really do enjoy the humble brag of “getting it up and running in a half hour” when I followed tech support, forum, and random guesses through to the end to no avail.  I don’t expect any help from you or anyone.  I spent years of my life in the J River forums a decade ago.  I know the balance of going deep on a topic with someone.  But if you don’t have anything useful to offer, you can stay radio silent.  If you don’t or choose to not have anything useful to add, then please just don’t.