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NoBoB, a $350 piece of equipment is not going to contain much of a DAC. In a similar vein, nor is lamp cable going to provide much in the way of speaker cable. I think you belong to the silly fringe group that thinks otherwise. Deep down inside, you do too.

Thankfully, this forum is run by technically literate mods who discredit this sort of ignorance, which is, unfortunately, rampant on most audiophile fora.

Docmark.. this is not an audiophile forum.. There are 3 basic types here: Sonos fanboys, that believe that Sonos can do no wrong. Those that need help with their Sonos setups of one sort or another. And those that believe if it can't be measured, or DBT'ed or ABX'ed then it doesn't exist or it's the placebo effect..

NoBoB, a $350 piece of equipment is not going to contain much of a DAC. In a similar vein, nor is lamp cable going to provide much in the way of speaker cable. I think you belong to the silly fringe group that thinks otherwise. Deep down inside, you do too.

You're going to have to do a lot better than that.

Unless I'm going a considerable distance, lamp cord is exactly what I use.

And those that believe if it can't be measured, or DBT'ed or ABX'ed then it doesn't exist or it's the placebo effect..
If it can't be ABX'd then the listener is unable to distinguish it anyway. Whether it's technically measurable or not is academic.

Really? Why not? Do you know how much a ""high quality" DAC chip costs? It isn't much...

Gentlemen, I think we can all agree to disagree on this matter, at least to some point. Sonos is okay. It is not the best thing to ever come along. There will be other developments, new designs and different units. Look at Denon and Naim, for example. I for one will keep an open mind.

You're going to have to do a lot better than that.

Unless I'm going a considerable distance, lamp cord is exactly what I use.


Of course it is.

Gentlemen, I think we can all agree to disagree on this matter, at least to some point. Sonos is okay. It is not the best thing to ever come along. There will be other developments, new designs and different units. Look at Denon and Naim, for example. I for one will keep an open mind.
Since you have agreed to let me, I disagree:).
There will certainly be better units in the future, but I haven't come across any that tick all the boxes that Sonos does till now.
I am not a unreserved fan - for example, I don't think that my Sonos Sub is as great a product for music as many here seem to think, and it hasn't changed my feelings towards subs in general for high quality music at home. I also think that some useful features are missing - it would be very useful to have a minimal display on each unit that shows the information on the track playing and volume level.
But for the flexibility of the system, range of price points, and ability to simultaneously do cheap and cheerful all the way to high end audiophile quality audio, on something like Sonosnet, Sonos remains the gold standard. With the option to also use wired, and eliminate interference completely.
What is surprising is that it has held this position for almost a decade - a very long time in this kind of tech.

Of course it is.

Have you signed up for James Randi's challenge yet? One shouldn't be so condesceding towards others when one cannot back up their words with proof. It is very easy to prove there are differences between lamp cord and multi-thousand dollar cables, and you can win $1 million doing it. Of course, you will be the first one in history to ever do it, but hey! Shoot for the skies!

Really? Why not? Do you know how much a ""high quality" DAC chip costs? It isn't much...Gentlemen, I think we can all agree to disagree on this matter

No, we can't, DAC chips are cheap (maybe not cheap as chips but it's a nice image!), that isn't a matter of opinion, that's a fact.

One shouldn't be so condesceding towards others
IMO, it is the other way around in this instance for sure. One can only laugh at the credulity levels of people who buy high end, expensive speaker cables as misled snake oil customers.
But there isn't much point reasoning with them, all one can do is offer rational solutions to people that are new to the home audio subject and perhaps save them some money.