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Prominent Collaborator I
June 30, 2020

Don't have eARC? Get Atmos w/ HD Fury "Arcana" - Pre-orders now LIVE!

Pre-orders available now! https://www.hdfury.com/product/4k-arcana-18gbps/

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FROM HD FURY SITE: 

No eARC TV ? No problem! And no more lip sync issues for eARC TV owners!
WORLD’S FIRST eARC adapter that allows FULL AUDIO up to Dolby Atmos over Dolby TrueHD from ANY external HDMI source to ANY eARC sound system.
Perfect solution for SONOS ARC/BOSE 500/BOSE 700 and ANY eARC or ARC AVR, soundbar or headphones.

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I’ve been talking a lot about this in another thread, but now it’s ready to order. If you love your Arc but aren’t getting Atmos / TrueHD for whatever reason (no eARC TV, Apple TV doesn’t like HDMI-ARC, regular HDMI-ARC can’t pass TrueHD, etc.), Arcana is what you need. In a nutshell, it tricks your Sonos Arc into thinking it’s connected to an eARC TV giving you full access to all the audio formats your source(s) can output. 

I don’t work for them - I’m just excited to unlock the potential of my Sonos Arc and don’t want to buy another new TV anytime soon. They need 400 orders in order to go into production, and if they hit 800 pre-orders they’re planning on adding additional functionality (CEC control and the ability to also get audio from the TV’s built-in apps). 

Plus, you can save a few bucks by pre-ordering now. 

If you want Atmos from an external device but your TV is holding you back, do us all a favor and go order an Arcana now.

Sales pitch over. ;-) 

 

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220 replies

Prodigy I
July 21, 2020

Hmmm so I started to pre-order, but then suddenly felt a little nickel and dimes so I stopped for the moment.  At 155 for arcana, then 24 shipping to USA … then there is this import tax.  This shipping from Taiwan or China.  Didn’t look at China, but the import tax can be up to 30%.. although the source states averages nearly 7%.  Then there is this packaging option.  As I understand it is if you want cheaper tariff, we won’t protect it (as much)
 

I get the tax… but how much will it cost?  7% is about equal to a tax here in the states.  I just don’t want to be surprised with a 30% bill upon delivery.  That’s nonsense.

 

 

I think you are looking at things wrong. They are being very upfront. You pay separately for the item and for shipping. Import tax is something that the receiving country charges. So whatever percentage it is, is related to your country’s laws.

My estimate is that it will cost more if you buy it later via resellers.  

Avid Contributor III
July 22, 2020

Hmmm so I started to pre-order, but then suddenly felt a little nickel and dimes so I stopped for the moment.  At 155 for arcana, then 24 shipping to USA … then there is this import tax.  This shipping from Taiwan or China.  Didn’t look at China, but the import tax can be up to 30%.. although the source states averages nearly 7%.  Then there is this packaging option.  As I understand it is if you want cheaper tariff, we won’t protect it (as much)
 

I get the tax… but how much will it cost?  7% is about equal to a tax here in the states.  I just don’t want to be surprised with a 30% bill upon delivery.  That’s nonsense.

 

 

I think you are looking at things wrong. They are being very upfront. You pay separately for the item and for shipping. Import tax is something that the receiving country charges. So whatever percentage it is, is related to your country’s laws.

My estimate is that it will cost more if you buy it later via resellers.  

I don’t mean to make it sound like they are being deceitful.  I appreciate the upfrontness.  I more want to know what the tax will be.  From a very little research it can be from nothing (exempt under $100) to 30%.  That’s a big range and be be upwards of 155+24+up to 45.  For now and in the future, for total cost, I am less interested above the 190 range...

Lyricist III
July 24, 2020

the government has allowed Americans to import up to $800 at a time of most foreign goods without having to pay import duties or tax. 

Lyricist II
August 10, 2020

I got mine Hdfury arcana Now pre ordered on https://www.hdfury.eu
but it will be delivered around November 🙏
mostly in Europe they are super fast with delivery.. so hopefully they ship sooner.  

 

Lyricist III
August 10, 2020

I got mine Hdfury arcana Now pre ordered on https://www.hdfury.eu
but it will be delivered around November 🙏
mostly in Europe they are super fast with delivery.. so hopefully they ship sooner.  

 

will you be exempt from tax if you do not order on hdfury.com but on hdfury.eu? I didn't know anything about hdfury.eu and so I ordered on.com

Lyricist II
August 10, 2020

I got mine Hdfury arcana Now pre ordered on https://www.hdfury.eu
but it will be delivered around November 🙏
mostly in Europe they are super fast with delivery.. so hopefully they ship sooner.  

 

will you be exempt from tax if you do not order on hdfury.com but on hdfury.eu? I didn't know anything about hdfury.eu and so I ordered on.com

That depends .. if you live in Europe then it is cheaper .. if you live outside of Europe you have the chance that you have to pay tax and import duties ..

August 10, 2020

I got mine Hdfury arcana Now pre ordered on https://www.hdfury.eu
but it will be delivered around November 🙏
mostly in Europe they are super fast with delivery.. so hopefully they ship sooner.  

 

will you be exempt from tax if you do not order on hdfury.com but on hdfury.eu? I didn't know anything about hdfury.eu and so I ordered on.com

That depends .. if you live in Europe then it is cheaper .. if you live outside of Europe you have the chance that you have to pay tax and import duties ..

For EU residents I would have thought it depends on whether EU VAT is charged on the products and therefore HDFury hands over that VAT to an EU country’s tax authorities.  I could not immediately see any evidence that the products would be dispatched from within Europe or that VAT was being charged (but i didn’t look very hard).  So my guess is that import duties would still be payable, but I am not at all confident about that.

melvimbe
August 10, 2020

If you chose not to pre-order though, your price will be $199, instead of the current $175.  That’s $24 right there.  If buying from the US, I don’t think there’s a scenario where you’re going to pay less by waiting. That said however, the hdfury.eu price is 155 euros, which converts to around $182 if my math is right.  Not sure what VAT and other fees would apply.

One other consideration is the product availability.  This is a smaller outfit and appears to be making the product in batches of 1000.  So even if you buy today, you’re going to be in the second batch.   After preorder, HDFury will surely keep some for themselves to sell, and then split the rest between a handful of distributors.  It’s entirely possible that hdfury.eu, and monoprice in the US, don’t have enough stock to meet demand for very long when it’s first release.  Particularly hdfury.eu, yes they have pre-orders open, but they are not authorized to do a pre-order and it does not mean they will be given enough stock to meet the demand.  I wouldn’t be too surprised if it’s a couple more months before they fulfill those pre-orders.

Danny
Prominent Collaborator I
August 10, 2020

One other consideration is the product availability.  This is a smaller outfit and appears to be making the product in batches of 1000. 

Looks like they’ve upped that initial order quantity, @melvimbe. I just noticed that the Arcana product page now says this regarding shipping: 

 

Shipping of the first 1900 pre-ordered units is expected before October 1, 2020.
Shipping of pre-ordered units above 1900 is expected before November 1, 2020.

 

So looks like there’s plenty more opportunity to get in on that “first batch.” 

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melvimbe
August 10, 2020

Good catch @Highfalutintodd.  Found that this was reaffirmed in the Discord channel. Sounds like they plan on shipping around mid September, but that’s not firm yet.

 

Nothing stated on why they are boosting the batch size.  I’m sure it’s to accommodate all pre-orders and distributor orders, as well as some for direct sale after it’s released.  Just curious if Sonos, installers, or some other source is interested in this, more than the other HD Fury products.

Danny