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Port with Preamp and Turntable

  • September 19, 2024
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Current Setup:

Pro-ject Turntable (no preamp) connected to Phono Tube Preamp.
Preamp connected to Sonos Port on RCA input. 

Port setup to deliver to two zones:

  1. Stereo Pair of Sonos One’s 
  2. Surround Sound with Sonos PlayBar and two Sonos One's

I have two questions:

  1. Is there anything I need to consider from a configuration of the preamp to ensure I’m getting the best sound quality and to ensure Im not damaging the port or speakers downstream?
  2. I’d like to add subwoofer to both zones. From a compatibility perspective, am I limited to Sub vs Mini Sub or specific versions of the subs? 

Spec for Preamp:

 

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Stanley_4
  • Lead Maestro
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  • September 20, 2024

The preamp should be fine unless you switch to an MM cartridge.

You can use any Sub or version. When using two Subs on the same Room one must be Gen 3.

The Port has some tweaks: (down a bit)

https://support.sonos.com/en-us/article/use-line-in-on-sonos


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  • Prodigy III
  • 545 replies
  • September 20, 2024

When you say the Port is setup to deliver to two zones, do you mean you group the Port to either the stereo setup or the Surround setup, and the port itself is not connected to any amplifier?

Looks from your spec like the phono preamp supports both Moving Magnet and Moving Coil, so I don’t see you should have any issues even if you change cartridge type. 

The analog connections from your turntable are pretty far removed from any of your Sonos speakers so I’d say there is nothing you can do on the phono pre-amp that can cause any damage to them. The worst you could do is cause damage to the Port, but even that’s tough as the signals from a pre-amp are not in the high voltage category so I really would not worry there. 

Selecting MC for a MM cartridge might produce a distorted signal as the pre-amp will try and over amplify the signal, but unless you have the Sonos speakers set really loud, I doubt the clipped signal will matter as I’m sure you’d recognise quite quickly! 


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  • Contributor I
  • 2 replies
  • September 20, 2024
Stanley_4 wrote:

The preamp should be fine unless you switch to an MM cartridge.

You can use any Sub or version. When using two Subs on the same Room one must be Gen 3.

The Port has some tweaks: (down a bit)

https://support.sonos.com/en-us/article/use-line-in-on-sonos

Appreciate the feedback and advice. Ive read somewhere in the forum that it’s possible to add a non-Sonos powered subwoofer to the Port by using the RCA out. Is that accurate? Would that work in my stereo pair if Im playin Line In to the pair along with the RCA out to subwoofer?  


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  • Contributor I
  • 2 replies
  • September 20, 2024
Ian_S wrote:

When you say the Port is setup to deliver to two zones, do you mean you group the Port to either the stereo setup or the Surround setup, and the port itself is not connected to any amplifier?

Looks from your spec like the phono preamp supports both Moving Magnet and Moving Coil, so I don’t see you should have any issues even if you change cartridge type. 

The analog connections from your turntable are pretty far removed from any of your Sonos speakers so I’d say there is nothing you can do on the phono pre-amp that can cause any damage to them. The worst you could do is cause damage to the Port, but even that’s tough as the signals from a pre-amp are not in the high voltage category so I really would not worry there. 

Selecting MC for a MM cartridge might produce a distorted signal as the pre-amp will try and over amplify the signal, but unless you have the Sonos speakers set really loud, I doubt the clipped signal will matter as I’m sure you’d recognise quite quickly! 
 

You are correct I group the two zones, and also combine them to “play everywhere” quite a bit.  There are times where if volume on the preamp is too high and I raise the volume on the stereo pair two high its an issue. So what you said makes sense. I find it varies from one record to another. In some cases the volume is too low on the amp for a record, and I increase the volume. And when I play another record in that same setting its too high.  Can I assume this is just a reflection of the quality of the vinyl recording?


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  • Prodigy III
  • 545 replies
  • September 25, 2024
Mamba Vinyl wrote:

You are correct I group the two zones, and also combine them to “play everywhere” quite a bit.  There are times where if volume on the preamp is too high and I raise the volume on the stereo pair two high its an issue. So what you said makes sense. I find it varies from one record to another. In some cases the volume is too low on the amp for a record, and I increase the volume. And when I play another record in that same setting its too high.  Can I assume this is just a reflection of the quality of the vinyl recording?

Variances in volume is just down to the individual mastering of the various pressings. Same on CD, streaming etc. The dreaded ‘volume normalisation’ is the sledge hammer fix… depends how much you like dynamic range I guess. 

 

 

 


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