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Contributor I
September 17, 2016
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Why I'm returning / selling my brand new Sonos Play 1

  • September 17, 2016
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Just bought a Sonos Play 1 today.
I'm not happy with it to say the least.
I was expecting by it's description and it's reviews to produce really high quality sound.
I have to say I like the tone of the audio on some songs, others are to be desired, but whats rubbing me the worst is the actual quality of the audio. There seems to be a blotchy-ness with it that makes it sound almost low-res. There seems to be a lack of harmonic detail, any brass on the drums tends to sound like bad static more then a physical ringing instruments that they are. Something that really shocked me was when I was listing to "The Best You Never Had" by Leona Lewis. There's a synth tune that plays about 0:32 in the song, I like the tune, I tend to hum it when the song comes up, however whats strange is that my Sonos Play One the synth melody is almost inaudible! Then it got me thinking; "If I can't hear that, then what else can't I hear!?" There really is a shocking lack of detail in this speaker. I described it at one point as a sounding almost as a "supermarket speaker".

The sound quality isn't my only issue. It's also support. I understand you only support iOS and Android. The thing is I'm a hobbiest Windows 10 UWP App developer and my smartphone of choice is a Lumia 640 for it's affordability and decent spec and construction. Microsoft Lumia smartphones are officially unsupported by Sonos. Sonos does however support UPNP playback and so I can use that right? Well for about 8 hours of trying my Lumia 640 wasn't connecting to my Sonos. Totally frustrating! It somewhat works now, although I can't adjust the volume. I surprised to see that the Play 1 doesn't have bluetooth connectivity. It's something so common that I just thought it was given and that it a real bummer for me.

One of the only reasons I bought the Sonos over other brands of speakers was the True Audio technology. It made the speaker sound almost atomically customizable. Although I don't have a supported phone, my dad has a Galaxy S4 which he said he would let me borrow to set up this feature, which Is when I found out after I bought my Play One that it only works on Apple smartphone's and tablets, something which highly annoyed me as I don't own one (I'm not THAT rich or technically competent).

I bought my, what I think is a considerably expensive Sonos Play One speaker on the grounds of it having a really great audio quality, being vastly customizable, being able to tailor tune it to my room, being somewhat compatible with my phone, supporting bluetooth connection (Which is my fault really, although their is literally no information on the box and the website is just as cryptic).

What I believe I got is a well made, powerful, low-res wireless speaker that fails to accurately produce the entire frequency range of audio, that contains a shallow app (Using my Windows Laptop) with lack luster configurable options, that is sold under false pretenses to I'd imagine ~70% of customers whom don't own an Apple products, including myself.

Start to finish for me buying, unpacking, using and configuring this product I've had nothing but annoyances (Which I'm probably passing on my irritation to you, for which I apologize.)

I like the Sonos brand. I think the product line needs an update and I'm getting my money back be it via a refund or private sale on a popular auction website.

Thanks for you time and patience.

Nathan.
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    122 replies

    September 20, 2016
    I have also seen sound quality vary CONSIDERABLY based on what content you are playing (Youtube vs Pandora vs Rhapsody) which is directly related to the streaming quality and the audio bitrate available to the service.
    My experience is that more than the above, the mastering quality of the recording and the sound levels that are produced have a bigger and more audible impact. A small drop in sound levels results in music quality appearing to collapse. Easily fixed, but little can be done if the mastering has been botched up.
    Enthusiast I
    September 23, 2016
    It might be a duff speaker, or maybe the speaker doesn't meet your expectations. But for £150, and given its size, you can't expect too much. I think anyone buying any of Sonos speakers hoping for Hi-fi sound is a bit mistaken. If you want that, get the Connect or the Connect:Amp and pair it with a pair of quality speakers. The Play:5 serves me well as an office radio, but it's certainly no hi-fi beater.
    Chris
    Lead Maestro
    September 23, 2016
    I wasn't overly impressed by the Play:1 sound until Trueplay came around and with calibration it really makes the Play:1 shine!
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    Chris
    Lead Maestro
    September 23, 2016
    Play:5 with Trueplay - that should be a hi-fi beater especially if you had a pair of Play:5s in stereo like a true hifi.
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    AjTrek1
    September 23, 2016
    I have Play 5 (Gen2) x 2 in stereo pair with sub tuned with TruePlay. Awesome!!!

    Not an apples to apples comparison but they come close to my 10 year old Def Tech setup when new (USD) @ $599 per Tower x 2 and $600 Sub (end table size). The Def Techs can handle a larger room.
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    binh25
    Avid Contributor I
    September 28, 2016
    True Play could be Placebo Effect. :-)
    I have 2x new play 5 in stereo setup and true play or not it doesn't sound that much difference to me.
    I also have 5x Play1 in each of the kid bedrooms again not sure I can tell the diff between true play tune and no true play
    ratty
    September 28, 2016
    True Play could be Placebo Effect. :-)
    No, it isn't. It's even physically observable in the driver excursion of a SUB.
    September 28, 2016
    True Play could be Placebo Effect. :-)

    tt isn't that, as I found when I used it to tune a 1+Sub, where the bass bloat that it eliminated can be picked out even when someone else toggles Trueplay on/off.
    But where the speakers have been optimally placed, then there is little for it to do, and the toggling doesn't seem to render any audible change. As I have found in standalone 1 units as well. And in both switch positions, the sound quality is good, and with no charge for Trueplay there is no cause to complain.
    Enthusiast I
    September 28, 2016
    Play:5 with Trueplay - that should be a hi-fi beater especially if you had a pair of Play:5s in stereo like a true hifi.

    A single play:5 is never going to compete with a decent mid-fi setup. Two in stereo along with a subwoofer - maybe, but it's not a cost effective solution.
    September 29, 2016
    What solution at the price point of the next gen 5 pair would sound better? Indeed, the only one with similar SQ that comes to mind at the same price point is a 1 pair + Sub. Properly placed, that is much better than a mid fi set up, whatever that means. In my listening tests it came quite close to a Harbeth speaker set up for mid range, and trumped it for bass.

    Note that the comparisons I am referring to would need the alternative to have a CDP+amp+speaker pair+cabling to make the prices comparable. With perhaps a hundred dollars added for the Sonos kit to accommodate a dedicated NAS.