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Contributor I
January 25, 2020
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when will play:3s be ‘legacy’?

Genuine question. What is the likely timeframe?

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    Airgetlam
    AirgetlamAnswer
    January 25, 2020

    As I recall, they stopped selling them in 2019, so the minimum amount of time would be 2024. And, of course, it might be longer, many of the soon to be legacy devices are well past 15 years old in design.

    Bruce

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    El TurkAuthor
    Contributor I
    January 25, 2020

    You don't lose your system.  Certain players stop receiving updates. 

    Please re-read the announcement. Or read it for the first time. 

     
    you don’t lose it. But they won’t update it. The whole system goes in to legacy mode. That’s the problem with this. And that’s what I was told by customer support after the spence email. 

    January 25, 2020

     

    You don't lose your system.  Certain players stop receiving updates. 

    Please re-read the announcement. Or read it for the first time. 

     
    you don’t lose it. 

    So why did you say you did?

    El TurkAuthor
    Contributor I
    January 25, 2020

    Thanks John. I had read that. But you will see, as I did, that the following is ambiguous:

    ‘ and legacy products can still be used separately’ 

     

    The idea of using Sonos products ‘separately’ is not the usual Sonos way. So I asked Sonos support, and I received the answer above. And that makes it clear:

    ‘After May, if you will keep legacy and modern device anther the same house hold, modern device will not be update so the device can work together as a one system.’

     

    That I emphasise, John, was after the 2nd announcement and the Spence email. And if you read the announcement carefully it is not inconsistent with it. 
     

    I agree 18 months iPhone model is an exaggeration. But I never anticipated any sort of ‘system effect’ on keeping ‘old’ Sonos products. So I am re evaluating.

     

     



     

     

    El TurkAuthor
    Contributor I
    January 25, 2020

    Sorry, John, because I sense this is annoying you. But I think you have misunderstood the Sonos plan. It’s not just that your old units don’t get updates. It’s that the whole system gets no updates. So the whole system goes into an non-updated legacy mode. That’s the problem. And that’s why we will have to keep buying new hardware to keep the system up to date. So I’m looking at what will be the next ‘legacy’ and it’s the Play:3.

    Virtuoso
    January 25, 2020

    If you stream Deezer/ Spotify etc and have a Legacy system you're on borrowed time hoping they don't alter alter their protocols (no update from Sonos for that..).

    I doubt many will opt for the split system.

    The Play:1 is well down the pecking order memory wise so probably next on the chopping block..

    El TurkAuthor
    Contributor I
    January 25, 2020

    Thanks, Keith. 
    More food for thought as I have more of the 1st gen Play:1s than Play:3s. 
    Sonos has really done us over. 

    Enthusiast I
    January 27, 2020

    As I recall, they stopped selling them in 2019, so the minimum amount of time would be 2024. And, of course, it might be longer, many of the soon to be legacy devices are well past 15 years old in design.


    I believe it’s five years from when they stop manufacturing them.  Someone in the announcement thread said they bought a connect or play 5 brand new a year ago, and it’s now going legacy.  From a sonos dealer.

    Airgetlam
    January 27, 2020

    I assume it really has less to do with either when it was manufactured and/or sold, and much more to do with the amount of memory in it, and the size of the memory Sonos needs to use to run the ‘latest’ features.
     

    Which is why all the original devices, now marked as ‘legacy’, have been functional since Sonos was released in 2005. All of these devices marked as ‘legacy’ have a measly 32Meg of memory, but have been kept current until this upcoming May.

    My assumption is that Sonos is going to continue to do everything possible, as they have previously, in order to keep from doing another round like this. However, there are limits, much like in smart phones, as to how much you can cram in to this restricted memory.

    This all wouldn’t be happening if these were simple speakers that didn’t have computers in them. But then they wouldn’t be what we purchased, either. 

    Bruce
    airforceteacher
    Headliner I
    January 27, 2020

    Is there a list handy somewhere of which devices have what amounts of memory?