Sonos connect to TV with two play 5's and sub?

Thanks for the information. I can't use optical from the TV to the Connect? Then wireless to the Play 5s and a sub? I mostly want real stereo and sub, rears aren't required but would have been nice.

I alos have Kef LS50W speakers and I may use those from the Connect. The Connect to the TV by optical and the Connect to the Kefs by RCA. I know some people are using a Connect with the Kefs but don't know if they are using it the way I am talking about with the TV.
I use Roon with the Kefs mostly and it's great but would also like a Sonos option.
Then again I have multiple ways to do multi-room with Roon which also talks to Airplay devices, to Sonos, and a direct integration to the Kef's.

The connect doesn't have an optical input, the optical is for output only. You can use RCA output from to RCA input on the connect, then group the Connect zone with your play 5 zone. However, this setup isn't designed for tv audio, and there will be a slight delay between audio and video. It bothers some but others have no issue with it.

Thanks for the information. I can't use optical from the TV to the Connect? Then wireless to the Play 5s and a sub? I mostly want real stereo and sub, rears aren't required but would have been nice.

The Sonos Connect does not have an optical in. You would have to find a cable that is optical on one end (out from TV) and RCA on the other (in to Connect). There are cables that are optical to 3.5 mm which would allow you to go direct to the Play 5’s.

Ok thanks. Doesn't sound like what I am looking for. With the number of people wanting to use Play 5's with their TV's you would think Sonos would come up with a better solution.

Ok thanks. Doesn't sound like what I am looking for. With the number of people wanting to use Play 5's with their TV's you would think Sonos would come up with a better solution.

They have. It's called a Playbar/Playbase.

Yes I am aware of that easy answer.
But they are seriously lacking in modern audio formats and connectivity not to mention real stereo separation which is why so many people are having optical to tv issues or looking for alternatives. The number of questions like mine on these forums make that pretty obvious.
The question is does Sonos have the resources or technical chops to update their severely lacking home theater products or will they continue to have unhappy customers and more product returns.

OK. If not having rears isn’t an issue then RCA from TV to 3.5 mm to Play 5’s will do just fine. The optical out is mainly to send a DD5.1 to a Playbar or Play base.

One more point: if the audio out for your TV isn’t variable you can’t use your TV remote to control volume of the Play 5’s. You’d have to use the Sonos app.

Yes I am aware of that easy answer.
But they are seriously lacking in modern audio formats and connectivity not to mention real stereo separation which is why so many people are having optical to tv issues or looking for alternatives. The number of questions like mine on these forums make that pretty obvious.
The question is does Sonos have the resources or technical chops to update their severely lacking home theater products or will they continue to have unhappy customers and more product returns.

Those "severely lacking" home theater products have a 4.5 stars out of 5 rating on Amazon, the worlds largest online retailer. I suggest that despite Sonos claims, "Home Theater enthusiasts" are not their target market (no self-respecting home theater enthusiast would use a soundbar in the first place). The Playbar/Playbase niche is Sonos owners who wish for better sound than tiny flat screen speakers, with an easy low maintenance install, which also seamlessly connects with their other Sonos products. Judging from the reviews, they hit their market sweet spot pretty well, codec support or no codec support.

And I'm saying this after having rejected the Playbar for my home theater because it is not suitable for my purpose.