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Contributor I
March 10, 2021
Answered

Is Roam S1 Compatible?

Hi

I have a couple of speakers that mean I have to use S1 controller app, can the new Roam be used with this or is it only S2 compatible 

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Lead Maestro
March 10, 2021

The Roam is only compatible with the S2 app.

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jgatie
April 20, 2021

Moore’s Law will take of that.

 

Moore’s Law was stated in 1965.  So exactly what Law was Sonos acting under when it squeezed almost 20 years (2002 - 2020) out of the original Sonos devices?  In addition, Moore himself stated that the Law is not infinite. 

melvimbe
April 20, 2021

Moore’s Law will take of that.

 

Moore’s Law was stated in 1965.  So exactly what Law was Sonos acting under when it squeezed almost 20 years (2002 - 2020) out of the original Sonos devices?  In addition, Moore himself stated that the Law is not infinite. 

 

It appears to be a rather loose interpretation of Moore’s law, which most interpretation tend to be.  I’m not quite seeing how it would apply here though.  I guess the expectation is that S3 will happen in...10 years? If the law did apply though, I don’t know why that would be a fault of Sonos since Moore’s law is universal.

Danny
jgatie
April 20, 2021

 

It appears to be a rather loose interpretation of Moore’s law, which most interpretation tend to be.  I’m not quite seeing how it would apply here though.  I guess the expectation is that S3 will happen in...10 years? If the law did apply though, I don’t know why that would be a fault of Sonos since Moore’s law is universal.

 

Yeah, I’m not getting the reference.  The power of a CPU in the future has no bearing on how long a CPU in the past can be made to run.  At least not implicitly. 

Contributor II
April 22, 2021

a very very long time customer.  While i am disappointed in the split.  I am less disappointed than those who bought a few years ago. My sonos amps are over 10 years old - so i feel that I’ve gotten my money out of them.  Having said that replacing 10 amps is not going to be cheap - but availability has been awful. the whole roll out of s1/s2 was really bad; half of my components updated when they should have asked so i had to spend a few days rolling back.  

Bottom line is that Sonos really screwed people that bought a few years ago.

I’d like to be able to buy enough amps so that i can upgrade at least one of my houses. but they’ve been backordered for a while. (I don’t want to drop 6K with a promised delivery date), i want them to ship.  

Airgetlam
April 22, 2021

It is unfortunate that Sonos, like so many other electronics companies, has been hit by the world wide chip shortages, much less the whole slew of issues caused by the pandemic. I feel your pain.

Bruce
Avid Contributor III
April 22, 2021

In conclusion its time to return my Sonos roam I just preordered and sell the rest of my Sonos so I can move over to Apple homepods

 

 

You mean Homepod Minis - https://www.popsci.com/story/technology/apple-homepod-speaker-discontinued/

 

 

I have most things Apple and the homepod Mini’s are fairly decent for their price point, currently £90 each in John Lewis which would be a great pairing for £180 if you bought two for your home office. I guess you could use Airplay 2 instead of Sonos to merge your Sonos Speakers and the Homepods for listening to music but I have found Airplay 2 to be a little problematic at times.

 

Avid Contributor III
April 22, 2021

Can you not use both the S1 for older speakers and the S2 app just for the Roam? That’s what I’m doing while I still have a Gen 1 Sonos 5. 

melvimbe
April 22, 2021

Bottom line is that Sonos really screwed people that bought a few years ago.

 

if you started buying into Sonos a few years ago, then all of your speakers would be S2 compatible and you wouldn’t have an issue.   

Also, it would not cost you 6k to replace 10 amps, since Sonos is offering 30% discounts for each of your older amps.  Your price per amp would be $455...under 5k when you add tax.   And you would then be able to sell you’re old amps for something possibly.  I’m not saying that’s cheap, just that you should have the discount if you were not aware.

 

Can you not use both the S1 for older speakers and the S2 app just for the Roam? That’s what I’m doing while I still have a Gen 1 Sonos 5. 

Yes, you can operate an S1 and S2 system in the same house.  However, you would not be able to group speakers/rooms from the 2 systems to play together.

Danny
jgatie
April 22, 2021

I have most things Apple and the homepod Mini’s are fairly decent for their price point, currently £90 each in John Lewis which would be a great pairing for £180 if you bought two for your home office. I guess you could use Airplay 2 instead of Sonos to merge your Sonos Speakers and the Homepods for listening to music but I have found Airplay 2 to be a little problematic at times.

 

 

My point for posting that link was to show Apple discontinued the product a scant 3 years after launch, and have no replacement product.  The Homepod was a bit of a flop, and with Apple, they tend to bury their flops (Ping, Pippin, G4, Apple Maps) as soon as possible, acting like they never existed (especially when it comes to support).  

 

Contributor I
April 23, 2021

The Roam is only possible because Sonos development is no longer restricted by its oldest devices.

Total rubbish.  It's because Sonos is worried about stock market price falling if users don't replace the components they've spent loads on.  It is straight forward to allow S1 components to run on S2 controller. Sonos chose not to allow this.