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Contributor I
March 10, 2021
Answered

Is Roam S1 Compatible?

Hi

I have a couple of speakers that mean I have to use S1 controller app, can the new Roam be used with this or is it only S2 compatible 

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Lead Maestro
March 10, 2021

The Roam is only compatible with the S2 app.

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Airgetlam
May 22, 2021

It’s perfectly acceptable to have that desire. Many do. The part I am calling foul on is the assumption that because melvimbe has an alternate opinion, he must be a Sonos employee. 

You may want to look at third party controllers. I’ve read that there may be the option to simultaneously run S1 and S2 products, but I don’t have any personal experience. However, neither the Roam nor Move will ever operate on S1, the operating system doesn’t have the ability to recognize those devices.

I do concur with melvimbe that it would be highly unlikely to be an intelligent thing for Sonos to officially support running S1 on either device. The challenges outweigh any potential benefits, especially for a vanishingly small population. Sonos will likely continue to prioritize their software choices for the masses, not the individual corner cases. 

Bruce
Contributor I
May 22, 2021

Thanks, I will check into that.  I have a Move and it works great (as designed) on my S1 network.  That's why I wish the Roam had been designed the same way.

 

 

May 22, 2021

Thanks, I will check into that.  I have a Move and it works great (as designed) on my S1 network.  That's why I wish the Roam had been designed the same way.

 

 

But then it would have had to be a small Move, lacking the additional features that the Roam actually has. The Roam CANNOT be S1 compatible. The whole point of the S1 / S2 split was to lose the restrictions of the older devices. Roam on S1? An impossible and self-contradictory request. 

Contributor I
May 30, 2021

The s1 s2 gap stops me buying any more sonos...  I have ten sonos components. Three only work with s1. 

 

I cancelled my roam order as s2 only. Sonos driver to a non customer....as  To replace 2 connects and 1 p5 would could me around £1200 for a £140 roam.  So in short as a big time sonos customer I can not longer add new products to my system and spend money with sonos.    so essentially now am no longer a sonos customer because sonos make it impossible with spending 1000s to get as is function I already have.   Suggest you review....

 

Exactly what do you expect them to do?  S1 only components do not have enough memory and/or storage to run S2, and S2 only components need S2 in order to run their new features, they simply cannot run S1.  There is nothing that can be done.

That's a cop out. There is plenty of “old” software in the computer world that will run on new hardware. Maybe some of us that have thousands of dollars invested are willing to forego any new features. It's very sad that Sonos has decided to abandon their oldest and most loyal customers.

May 30, 2021

The s1 s2 gap stops me buying any more sonos...  I have ten sonos components. Three only work with s1. 

 

I cancelled my roam order as s2 only. Sonos driver to a non customer....as  To replace 2 connects and 1 p5 would could me around £1200 for a £140 roam.  So in short as a big time sonos customer I can not longer add new products to my system and spend money with sonos.    so essentially now am no longer a sonos customer because sonos make it impossible with spending 1000s to get as is function I already have.   Suggest you review....

 

Exactly what do you expect them to do?  S1 only components do not have enough memory and/or storage to run S2, and S2 only components need S2 in order to run their new features, they simply cannot run S1.  There is nothing that can be done.

That's a cop out. There is plenty of “old” software in the computer world that will run on new hardware. Maybe some of us that have thousands of dollars invested are willing to forego any new features. It's very sad that Sonos has decided to abandon their oldest and most loyal customers.

Melodramatic, ill-informed nonsense

 

Lyricist II
June 11, 2021

The s1 s2 gap stops me buying any more sonos...  I have ten sonos components. Three only work with s1. 

 

I cancelled my roam order as s2 only. Sonos driver to a non customer....as  To replace 2 connects and 1 p5 would could me around £1200 for a £140 roam.  So in short as a big time sonos customer I can not longer add new products to my system and spend money with sonos.    so essentially now am no longer a sonos customer because sonos make it impossible with spending 1000s to get as is function I already have.   Suggest you review....

Major blunder by Sonos. Very frustrating for a very loyal customer. S2 has been frustrating. This is likely my breaking point. 

Lyricist I
July 26, 2021

Is it OK if I challenge this assumption, at least a little bit?

If Sonos was indeed concerned about their stock market price falling, wouldn’t they have completely abandon S1 as a concept, and force everyone to purchase new speakers? That would have surely generated much more revenue, supporting the stock price, if there was no longer any function for older speakers at all, and everyone was forced in to purchasing S2 capable speakers. 

I would think continuing to support S1 systems is counter profit oriented thinking. But I’m not a market analyst, just a user on a forum. 

 

Don’t forget, this is exactly what they tried to do. Initially, they came out and said that we with older equipment had to brick the equipment and then we would get 30% off of the new equipment. It was only when we all blew a fuse that they relented, and came up with this bogus S1/S2 idea. I have a lot of original Sonos gear 5 Play:5’s, a few Play:3’s and Play:1’s, a sound bar, and amps and connects. I can only use S1 for all my equipment, therefore I will not buy any new gear that requires S2. I have invested thousand in Sonos, but I will not buy any additional Sonos gear. When they finally drop support of S1, which I fully expect to happen, I will replace with other equipment. You can accomplish much of what you get from Sonos with other equipment these days, and for a lot less money.

Also, Sonos makes excellent hardware, but their software (apps) suck.

In addition, at some point, Sonos will come out with an S3 option, and pull this bogus concept again. I think many people who invested in S2 equipment will feel the same way we feel when this happens to them.

jgatie
July 27, 2021

Major blunder by Sonos. Very frustrating for a very loyal customer. S2 has been frustrating. This is likely my breaking point. 

 

It's not a blunder, it simply cannot be done.

Trending Lyricist I
August 19, 2021

Travelling on vacation in a couple of weeks.  Shopping for a new travel speaker.  I looked at the Roam, but as I’m still on S1 due to my refusal to upgrade (only my bridge would die) because I refuse to go back to the problematic wi-fi issues I had before I moved to Sonosnet, and I also cannot have a speaker jacked directly in to my router.  So the Roam is a no go for me.  Same applies really for the soundbar upgrade I’m looking at.  

 

I was disappointed when Sonos split the tech stack and remain so.  Still, it’s been the kick up the arse I needed to move away from one manufacturer. 

jgatie
August 19, 2021

Travelling on vacation in a couple of weeks.  Shopping for a new travel speaker.  I looked at the Roam, but as I’m still on S1 due to my refusal to upgrade (only my bridge would die) because I refuse to go back to the problematic wi-fi issues I had before I moved to Sonosnet, and I also cannot have a speaker jacked directly in to my router.  So the Roam is a no go for me.  Same applies really for the soundbar upgrade I’m looking at.  

 

I was disappointed when Sonos split the tech stack and remain so.  Still, it’s been the kick up the arse I needed to move away from one manufacturer. 

 

What makes you think upgrading to S2 means you can’t use Sonosnet?