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Is Roam S1 Compatible?

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Hi

I have a couple of speakers that mean I have to use S1 controller app, can the new Roam be used with this or is it only S2 compatible

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GuitarSuperstarAnswer

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The Roam is only compatible with the S2 app.

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John B

The Roam is only possible because Sonos development is no longer restricted by its oldest devices.

Total rubbish. It's because Sonos is worried about stock market price falling if users don't replace the components they've spent loads on. It is straight forward to allow S1 components to run on S2 controller. Sonos chose not to allow this.

Well you seem to be an expert on Sonos technical matters as well as on their company strategy (with reference to the thread you have just started).

Thank you for sharing your expertise with everyone. I hope nobody is so foolish as to challenge your assertions.

Airgetlam

Is it OK if I challenge this assumption, at least a little bit?

If Sonos was indeed concerned about their stock market price falling, wouldn’t they have completely abandon S1 as a concept, and force everyone to purchase new speakers? That would have surely generated much more revenue, supporting the stock price, if there was no longer any function for older speakers at all, and everyone was forced in to purchasing S2 capable speakers.

I would think continuing to support S1 systems is counter profit oriented thinking. But I’m not a market analyst, just a user on a forum.

Bruce

jgatie

Is it OK if I challenge this assumption, at least a little bit?

If Sonos was indeed concerned about their stock market price falling, wouldn’t they have completely abandon S1 as a concept, and force everyone to purchase new speakers? That would have surely generated much more revenue, supporting the stock price, if there was no longer any function for older speakers at all, and everyone was forced in to purchasing S2 capable speakers.

I would think continuing to support S1 systems is counter profit oriented thinking. But I’m not a market analyst, just a user on a forum.

Ridiculous! No company (*cough* Bose *cough*) is going to abandon an entire current lineup of products (*cough* Bose SoundTouch *cough*) and come out with a brand new lineup (*cough* Bose Smart Speaker *cough*) that is completely incompatible with the old one. Simply ridiculous!

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John B

Is it OK if I challenge this assumption, at least a little bit?

Of course Bruce! But you aren’t going to persuade the OP by reason and sense, he and they have clearly parted company. I just thought it not worth the effort.

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Froggie

Lyricist I

Brought one Home from the store Yesterday. My setup is $80pct S2 and $20pct S1.

Today I returned it.

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Jfs

Contributor I

The s1 s2 gap stops me buying any more sonos... I have ten sonos components. Three only work with s1.

I cancelled my roam order as s2 only. Sonos driver to a non customer....as To replace 2 connects and 1 p5 would could me around £1200 for a £140 roam. So in short as a big time sonos customer I can not longer add new products to my system and spend money with sonos. so essentially now am no longer a sonos customer because sonos make it impossible with spending 1000s to get as is function I already have. Suggest you review....

Exactly what do you expect them to do? S1 only components do not have enough memory and/or storage to run S2, and S2 only components need S2 in order to run their new features, they simply cannot run S1. There is nothing that can be done.

That is complete rubbish that they had to make the Roam S2 only because of memory. They could and should have made it S1/S2 compatible. They didn’t make it S1 compatible to force us to upgrade… all for a little portable speaker. Very upsetting and sad they have turned into this….

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Jfs

Contributor I

The S1/S2 debacle has been debated ad nauseam, but I can’t help think there was an opportunity here for Sonos to simply ensure compatibility between the two controllers. They did it with the Move and if the S1 system is supposedly legacy, then what’s the harm in ensuring that a new device with supposedly “better specs” is capable of supporting the old software? It’s not like we’re trying to do the reverse here.

The bolded part is incorrect. The Move was released before the S1/S2 split, and Sonos did not do anything at all to make the Move S1 compatible. What’s the harm of making the Roam S1 compatible? First the S1 customer base is surely much smaller than the S2 customer base. Second, making it S1 compatible would add cost to development and testing, since it would be two systems, 2 sets of features to test. Having 2 sets of features also would confusing, as you’d likely end up with customers who believed they could do speaker swaps, or share bluetooth audio with other speakers….only to find out it’s an S2 only feature. And then you would have all the angry customers who upgraded to S2 because they were told there were no new S1 products. And of course, Sonos obviously would more people switch over to S2, both to lower support costs and experience the better S2 features….and that doesn’t happen as fast if they keep making S1 products.

You must work for Sonos. Making the Roam on the same platform as the Move would have been a great fit and service for this low end/cost speaker.

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Jfs

Contributor I

Hi

I have a couple of speakers that mean I have to use S1 controller app, can the new Roam be used with this or is it only S2 compatible

The best bet (IMO) if you want to stick with S1 for a while, is just use any good blue-tooth speaker with Spotify or Amazon. It won’t be integrated with your S1 system, but it will save you thousands of dollars.

Airgetlam

Why is it that if someone disagrees with your perspective, they must be a Sonos employee?

I’m pretty sure that Sonos employees are required by the company to have ‘Sonos employee’ on their account, much like all the moderators do. I also feel fairly confident in saying that not only is melvimbe not a Sonos employee, but that his analysis is correct.

Bruce

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Jfs

Contributor I

Bruce,

I get his analysis... I just wish Sonos had opted to let this new small portable be available for all users, S1 and S2. I will look into how the experience would be having both an S1 and S2 operate in your house.

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