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Ryan S
Retired Sonos Staff
Jan 22, 2020 3:20 PM UTC

End of Software Support - Clarifications

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End of Software Support - Clarifications

We announced yesterday that some of our oldest Sonos products will be moving into a legacy mode in May of 2020. Our commitment is to support products with regular software updates for a minimum of five years after we stop selling them, and we have a track record of supporting products far longer. 

Here is some public information we’ve shared, gathered into one place to respond to some of your questions in one easy thread, so that people can find the correct information easily.

Beginning in May, software updates and new features from Sonos will only be delivered to systems with only modern products.

After May, systems that include legacy products will continue to work as before - but they will no longer receive software updates or new features. 

Sonos will work to maintain the existing experience and conduct bug fixes, but our efforts will ultimately be limited by the lack of memory and processing power of these legacy products.

We don’t expect any immediate impact to your experience, but access to services and overall functionality will eventually be disrupted, particularly as partners evolve their own services and features. 

 

Customers with both legacy and modern products have time to decide what option is best for them. You can continue to use your whole system in legacy mode - in this case, it will stop receiving updates and new features. 

You will also be able to separate your legacy products from your modern products, so that the modern products can still receive updates and new features, and legacy products can still be used separately. We’ll have more information on how to do this in May when you can take that action.

Another option available to all customers with legacy products is to take advantage of the Trade Up program, which allows you to upgrade older Sonos products to modern ones with a 30% discount. Trade Up will be open to customers at any time should they decide to upgrade. 

We recognize this is new for Sonos owners, just as it is for Sonos. We are committed to help you by making options available to you to support the best decision for your home.
 

If you have any further questions, please don’t hesitate with asking.

Update 2/22: A message from our CEO

We heard you. We did not get this right from the start. My apologies for that and I wanted to personally assure you of the path forward:

First, rest assured that come May, when we end new software updates for our legacy products, they will continue to work as they do today. We are not bricking them, we are not forcing them into obsolescence, and we are not taking anything away. Many of you have invested heavily in your Sonos systems, and we intend to honor that investment for as long as possible. While legacy Sonos products won’t get new software features, we pledge to keep them updated with bug fixes and security patches for as long as possible. If we run into something core to the experience that can’t be addressed, we’ll work to offer an alternative solution and let you know about any changes you’ll see in your experience.

Secondly, we heard you on the issue of legacy products and modern products not being able to coexist in your home. We are working on a way to split your system so that modern products work together and get the latest features, while legacy products work together and remain in their current state. We’re finalizing details on this plan and will share more in the coming weeks.

While we have a lot of great products and features in the pipeline, we want our customers to upgrade to our latest and greatest products when they’re excited by what the new products offer, not because they feel forced to do so. That’s the intent of the trade up program we launched for our loyal customers.

Thank you for being a Sonos customer. Thank you for taking the time to give us your feedback. I hope that you’ll forgive our misstep, and let us earn back your trust. Without you, Sonos wouldn’t exist and we’ll work harder than ever to earn your loyalty every single day.

If you have any further questions please don’t hesitate to contact us.

 

Patrick Spence
CEO, Sonos

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Avid Contributor I
Dec 4, 2020 1:59 AM UTC

Since this thread has so much history, I’ll simply say that my first and only purchase was three Sonos Ones.  Seeing this and all the topics not responded to is ending any future purchases, you lost selling 5 current speakers from me alone by Spring 2021.  Guess I will converse with you all again after Sonos goes belly up and is bought out.  Or maybe not!

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106rallye
Dec 4, 2020 6:18 AM UTC

@nacunis Can I ask why? Your One's are still in production and will be supported for (at least) five years after production  ends. Buying elsewhere will not get you a better guarantee, certainly not at this price point.

There's a lot to say about how Sonos communicated this from the beginning, but the unavoidable split between S1 and S2, and promising to keep supporting devices that where bought as far back as 2006 should be applauded.

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Lyricist II
Dec 6, 2020 5:32 PM UTC

I myst admit - Sonos support has been very helpful. I got all my units back to function on S1.

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Avid Contributor I
Dec 6, 2020 7:53 PM UTC

All, those in the community who define the Sonos customer base as those who only do streaming services versus local files for music have been clear, saying that support and product development for local collections are irrelevant, tell me a lot.  That their profits are from a userbase that only does streaming (90% of the community) are probably right.  Why should Sonos develop any code changes for only 10% of their community?  People who suggest changes don’t even get knowledge of receipt of the suggestion and for sure, as far as I can tell, there has only been one change in 3 years that I wanted, Four others remain totally unaddressed, unreceived, and not rejected.  That’s not a company I choose to do business with.    Certainly, if a speaker or system fails, I would call for support.  My issue is with product development and customer communications/

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Avid Contributor I
Dec 6, 2020 7:56 PM UTC

As for 106rallye, I am glad you get the service you expect.  My expectations are different and are not even being considered.  I wish you many years with Sonos.

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Dec 6, 2020 9:53 PM UTC

Since this thread has so much history, I’ll simply say that my first and only purchase was three Sonos Ones.  Seeing this and all the topics not responded to is ending any future purchases, you lost selling 5 current speakers from me alone by Spring 2021.  Guess I will converse with you all again after Sonos goes belly up and is bought out.  Or maybe not!

People on this forum have been predicting the demise of Sonos for at least as long as I have been a forum member.

The most common reason given is that Sonos has not implemented some pet feature that the poster thinks is essential.

Eventually, I suppose, somebody may be right, but don't hold your breath  

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Lyricist II
Dec 7, 2020 1:57 PM UTC

I think “unavoidable” and “applauded” are 2 great words when used in the correct context. 
I have seen no data that reflects “unavoidable” challenges.

Only challenges that would have to be addressed if they were part of your goals to accomplish your project. 
Applauds for completing their project which was to get into the streaming market. To increase profits.

So, let’s look at it clearly. They wanted to get into the streaming profits and sell new items.
As a owner of 2  first generation  iPads I will tell you one way to guaranty no sales to to insure the older item can not get updates or “survive” in the ever increasing world of technology. 

Sonos executed the playbook.
They flaw with this playbook is if you have over a dozen s1 items and 1 dies and you have to replace it, the square peg does not fit in your round hole. Then why does the old customer return? They don’t. They go buy apple or google. The s1 users are now locked into a painful transition that well happen because things break. I have a lot of Sonos, but I don’t know anybody who has the money to go replace dozens of Sonos items at one time. And who would after Sonos just proven that they would push you into this position. 
Sonos didn’t do a bad thing by trying to progress, they did a bad thing by the feeling that they gave there previous customers and those previous customers are your returning customers if they continue to feel the warm and fuzzy. 
Just an observation. 

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Dec 7, 2020 2:11 PM UTC

Well, glad we have revisited this one again.

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Lyricist III
Dec 10, 2020 9:41 PM UTC

I have two Play 3 and one Play 1that I purchased less than 5 years ago. I am furious that none of them work any longer. The new app keeps dropping the speakers from my system.  I will NEVER (and yes I’m yelling) buy another Sonos product again, nor will I recommend to my friends.  The post above from Sonos stated that the older products will continue to work. Liars or just poor planning? Either way, no more Sonos for me!

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Dec 10, 2020 9:49 PM UTC

These speakers work perfectly.  They are even fully  supported,  not legacy. A local issue that you could resolve fairly easily if you tried rather than rant on here.

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