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Ryan S
Retired Sonos Staff
Jan 22, 2020 3:20 PM UTC

End of Software Support - Clarifications

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End of Software Support - Clarifications

We announced yesterday that some of our oldest Sonos products will be moving into a legacy mode in May of 2020. Our commitment is to support products with regular software updates for a minimum of five years after we stop selling them, and we have a track record of supporting products far longer. 

Here is some public information we’ve shared, gathered into one place to respond to some of your questions in one easy thread, so that people can find the correct information easily.

Beginning in May, software updates and new features from Sonos will only be delivered to systems with only modern products.

After May, systems that include legacy products will continue to work as before - but they will no longer receive software updates or new features. 

Sonos will work to maintain the existing experience and conduct bug fixes, but our efforts will ultimately be limited by the lack of memory and processing power of these legacy products.

We don’t expect any immediate impact to your experience, but access to services and overall functionality will eventually be disrupted, particularly as partners evolve their own services and features. 

 

Customers with both legacy and modern products have time to decide what option is best for them. You can continue to use your whole system in legacy mode - in this case, it will stop receiving updates and new features. 

You will also be able to separate your legacy products from your modern products, so that the modern products can still receive updates and new features, and legacy products can still be used separately. We’ll have more information on how to do this in May when you can take that action.

Another option available to all customers with legacy products is to take advantage of the Trade Up program, which allows you to upgrade older Sonos products to modern ones with a 30% discount. Trade Up will be open to customers at any time should they decide to upgrade. 

We recognize this is new for Sonos owners, just as it is for Sonos. We are committed to help you by making options available to you to support the best decision for your home.
 

If you have any further questions, please don’t hesitate with asking.

Update 2/22: A message from our CEO

We heard you. We did not get this right from the start. My apologies for that and I wanted to personally assure you of the path forward:

First, rest assured that come May, when we end new software updates for our legacy products, they will continue to work as they do today. We are not bricking them, we are not forcing them into obsolescence, and we are not taking anything away. Many of you have invested heavily in your Sonos systems, and we intend to honor that investment for as long as possible. While legacy Sonos products won’t get new software features, we pledge to keep them updated with bug fixes and security patches for as long as possible. If we run into something core to the experience that can’t be addressed, we’ll work to offer an alternative solution and let you know about any changes you’ll see in your experience.

Secondly, we heard you on the issue of legacy products and modern products not being able to coexist in your home. We are working on a way to split your system so that modern products work together and get the latest features, while legacy products work together and remain in their current state. We’re finalizing details on this plan and will share more in the coming weeks.

While we have a lot of great products and features in the pipeline, we want our customers to upgrade to our latest and greatest products when they’re excited by what the new products offer, not because they feel forced to do so. That’s the intent of the trade up program we launched for our loyal customers.

Thank you for being a Sonos customer. Thank you for taking the time to give us your feedback. I hope that you’ll forgive our misstep, and let us earn back your trust. Without you, Sonos wouldn’t exist and we’ll work harder than ever to earn your loyalty every single day.

If you have any further questions please don’t hesitate to contact us.

 

Patrick Spence
CEO, Sonos

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4256 replies

Lyricist II
Jan 24, 2020 5:37 PM UTC

I think it is time for some open source firmware development for “legacy” Sonos devices that will allow us to flash the devices and move off these silly limits.

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Lyricist III
Jan 24, 2020 5:38 PM UTC

Nothing has changed with the CEO’s email. Still very vague and not ideal outcome. Moving on after 8 years of loyalty. 

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Lyricist I
Jan 24, 2020 5:40 PM UTC

I must say I was really disappointed when I received the email the other day. I have regularly sung the praises of Sonos, having been very pleased with my setup. To be told that half of my system (I have a ‘legacy’ 5 and a ‘current’ 3) might be unusable at some indeterminate point in the future has not made me happy. The recent update message from the CEO is a small improvement on the first communication, but we need some assurances if any confidence in Sonos is to be re-established.

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Enthusiast II
Jan 24, 2020 5:40 PM UTC

If you continue to not like the messaging, I encourage you to rate their products on retail sites. I voiced my concerns with 1 star ratings. 

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Lyricist III
Jan 24, 2020 5:46 PM UTC

Since this announcement a few days ago the share price has dropped 6.5%.

Thats a billion dollars wiped off the company value.  A fair few “trade ups” would need to be sold to recover that.

Hows about just going back to plan A and not treating your existing customer base like a cash cow adn expecting them to just suck it up that their home sound system which has been added to over the years is about to get ripped apart.


Good thing Nicholas Millington, Chief Product Officer, sold 30% of his shares on January 2nd for $500,000.00 before the share price started going down.  Shrewd trader that Nicholas :wink: .

http://d18rn0p25nwr6d.cloudfront.net/CIK-0001314727/5e4c0a01-abfa-4ea8-bf30-6a97f31fb24d.pdf

It’s probably already been asked, but isn’t that type of activity illegal? Knowing sh1t is about to happen and offloading your stock before the market knows??

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Lyricist III
Jan 24, 2020 5:46 PM UTC

And so it begins

retailers-move-to-dump-sonos

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Lyricist I
Jan 24, 2020 5:48 PM UTC

18 months ago, July 2018 I outfitted my entire home with “New” Sonos equipment. Now I get an email that 1 of my 3 Connect:Amps is not a “Modern Product” and needs to be replaced???? All of my other equipment is ok. When I called my Sonos Salesman, he basically said that there was nothing he could do, other than sell me another “New” Connect: Amp with a 30% discount?? How long is my other equipment going to considered “Modern”?? I am a Realtor and I always recommend Sonos to my clients. What a huge disappointment! 

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Lyricist III
Jan 24, 2020 5:50 PM UTC

If you continue to not like the messaging, I encourage you to rate their products on retail sites. I voiced my concerns with 1 star ratings. 

Exactly!  I went ahead and reviewed the products I own today on a few retail site.  Please everyone, do the same.  

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User884294
Avid Contributor I
Jan 24, 2020 5:50 PM UTC

If you continue to not like the messaging, I encourage you to rate their products on retail sites. I voiced my concerns with 1 star ratings. 


Very good idea. 

I have some outstanding Amazon reviews to post.

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Lyricist II
Jan 24, 2020 5:53 PM UTC

Since this announcement a few days ago the share price has dropped 6.5%.

Thats a billion dollars wiped off the company value.  A fair few “trade ups” would need to be sold to recover that.

Hows about just going back to plan A and not treating your existing customer base like a cash cow adn expecting them to just suck it up that their home sound system which has been added to over the years is about to get ripped apart.


Good thing Nicholas Millington, Chief Product Officer, sold 30% of his shares on January 2nd for $500,000.00 before the share price started going down.  Shrewd trader that Nicholas :wink: .

http://d18rn0p25nwr6d.cloudfront.net/CIK-0001314727/5e4c0a01-abfa-4ea8-bf30-6a97f31fb24d.pdf

It’s probably already been asked, but isn’t that type of activity illegal? Knowing sh1t is about to happen and offloading your stock before the market knows??

Yeah, it's called insider trading....

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