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Ryan S
Retired Sonos Staff
Jan 22, 2020 3:20 PM UTC

End of Software Support - Clarifications

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End of Software Support - Clarifications

We announced yesterday that some of our oldest Sonos products will be moving into a legacy mode in May of 2020. Our commitment is to support products with regular software updates for a minimum of five years after we stop selling them, and we have a track record of supporting products far longer. 

Here is some public information we’ve shared, gathered into one place to respond to some of your questions in one easy thread, so that people can find the correct information easily.

Beginning in May, software updates and new features from Sonos will only be delivered to systems with only modern products.

After May, systems that include legacy products will continue to work as before - but they will no longer receive software updates or new features. 

Sonos will work to maintain the existing experience and conduct bug fixes, but our efforts will ultimately be limited by the lack of memory and processing power of these legacy products.

We don’t expect any immediate impact to your experience, but access to services and overall functionality will eventually be disrupted, particularly as partners evolve their own services and features. 

 

Customers with both legacy and modern products have time to decide what option is best for them. You can continue to use your whole system in legacy mode - in this case, it will stop receiving updates and new features. 

You will also be able to separate your legacy products from your modern products, so that the modern products can still receive updates and new features, and legacy products can still be used separately. We’ll have more information on how to do this in May when you can take that action.

Another option available to all customers with legacy products is to take advantage of the Trade Up program, which allows you to upgrade older Sonos products to modern ones with a 30% discount. Trade Up will be open to customers at any time should they decide to upgrade. 

We recognize this is new for Sonos owners, just as it is for Sonos. We are committed to help you by making options available to you to support the best decision for your home.
 

If you have any further questions, please don’t hesitate with asking.

Update 2/22: A message from our CEO

We heard you. We did not get this right from the start. My apologies for that and I wanted to personally assure you of the path forward:

First, rest assured that come May, when we end new software updates for our legacy products, they will continue to work as they do today. We are not bricking them, we are not forcing them into obsolescence, and we are not taking anything away. Many of you have invested heavily in your Sonos systems, and we intend to honor that investment for as long as possible. While legacy Sonos products won’t get new software features, we pledge to keep them updated with bug fixes and security patches for as long as possible. If we run into something core to the experience that can’t be addressed, we’ll work to offer an alternative solution and let you know about any changes you’ll see in your experience.

Secondly, we heard you on the issue of legacy products and modern products not being able to coexist in your home. We are working on a way to split your system so that modern products work together and get the latest features, while legacy products work together and remain in their current state. We’re finalizing details on this plan and will share more in the coming weeks.

While we have a lot of great products and features in the pipeline, we want our customers to upgrade to our latest and greatest products when they’re excited by what the new products offer, not because they feel forced to do so. That’s the intent of the trade up program we launched for our loyal customers.

Thank you for being a Sonos customer. Thank you for taking the time to give us your feedback. I hope that you’ll forgive our misstep, and let us earn back your trust. Without you, Sonos wouldn’t exist and we’ll work harder than ever to earn your loyalty every single day.

If you have any further questions please don’t hesitate to contact us.

 

Patrick Spence
CEO, Sonos

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Lyricist II
Jan 24, 2020 7:57 AM UTC

All I want is to use all of my Sonos speakers together and to keep adding new speakers. If that can’t happen then I won’t buy more Sonos speakers. It’s as simple as that.

 

I get that older products can’t receive newer updates, but surely there’s a technical way around allowing legacy speakers to co-exist with newer speakers whilst providing latest updates to newer speakers. For all the software updates that have been applied over the years, the fundamentals haven’t changed - the speakers play music from a source and group rooms together. They have been doing that for nearly 15 years already within the memory constranints of the hardware.

 

I don’t believe this a technical decision. it’s all about money.

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Stanley_4
Grand Maestro
Jan 24, 2020 7:58 AM UTC

now I know that modern products might be legacy tomorrow.

How do you know that? It is a direct contradiction of Sonos policy of five years of support after the product is no longer sold.

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Enthusiast II
Jan 24, 2020 7:58 AM UTC

I will not buy new Sonos products that don’t work with my old Sonos products as one multi-room system.

I agree, and i will not buy any product that can not coexist with my old system, while the “new” units still receive updates.

I dont want to be held back with regards to software on my speakers, just because one is not being updated.

 

Just like i would be furious if microsoft would not give me feature and security updates on my windows 10 laptop, because it detected that i have a windows 7 desktop computer on the same network.

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Lyricist I
Jan 24, 2020 7:59 AM UTC

Dear @sonos,

I just want to inform you that my support to @sonos has reached end of life and you will no longer be supported. However I offer you to buy back all my Sonos hardware with a 35% discount.

You can of cause continue to co-exist as a legacy supplier in the slow lane next to your supported competitors in the fast lane.

#SonosBoycott #Sonosgate #Sonos

Kind regards,

Michael

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Enthusiast II
Jan 24, 2020 8:01 AM UTC

Actually, having seen the response from Patrick Spence, one thing is cleared up. He didn’t just make a mistake at the start of the week, it wasn’t a blunder by some junior marketing person. He really doesn’t care a jot about his customers.

I am wondering if there’s any way to let Sonos shareholders know that I will consider buying Sonos products again the day after he quits.

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Lyricist III
Jan 24, 2020 8:05 AM UTC

@Ryan Sd, you should rethink that.

I will report SONOS to UK trading standards. The kit I bought is clearly not fit for purpose. 

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Enthusiast II
Jan 24, 2020 8:05 AM UTC

Sonos Amp £599

yamaha wxa 50 £379

Amp with 30% 419

 

this was just a quick look it's a no brainier for me

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Virtuoso
Jan 24, 2020 8:06 AM UTC

Looking at the above, I bet there would be a way to code a Sonos One Gen 2 to act as a distribution point (Legacy Hub)  to sever "Legacy" units with a stream, all they have to do is play the stream (not taxing at all).

No money in it though, so carry on shafting the customers..

The idea of "splitting" your eco system in two which was sold from the word go as a "Whole Home Solution" beggars belief..

Just absolutely shocking, I feel sorry for all those affected already and I'm sure my Playbar/ Play:1s and Play:3 are not long for the chopping block.

Some custom operating system (preferably Open Source) will be the way to go and I'm sure a group will come up with something along those lines. Surely we own the hardware and it's ours to donas we please with..

 

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Contributor II
Jan 24, 2020 8:07 AM UTC

The CEO talks of "great products in the pipeline".

Is he for real?

Most existing customers won't be touching any more Sonos products. New customers will Google "Sonos" and read about the debacle he's created and buy something else.

For "pipeline", I'd read "drain".

I hope his Board has his arse to the fire for the way he's trashed a great brand.

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Lyricist III
Jan 24, 2020 8:13 AM UTC

Don’t just post here guys… 

 

ask questions on Amazon like ‘when will this be obsolescent, like Amos just made the rest of my kit?’

leve reviews on big retailer sites warning potential purchasers to be wary

i am doing this each time I have a few spare minutes.…

it is helping me deal with my anger as I am furious… I don’t want to be forced into having first 2 and then what 3? 4? Zones in my all zone household wide music system…! 

make them change this...

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