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Contributor I
June 7, 2021

Adopting Matter?

  • June 7, 2021
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Any news on Sonos adopting the Matter standard?

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bockersjv
Local Superstar
June 7, 2021

Probably a matter for Sonos. Sorry couldn’t  help it. 
 

Rarely do you get any insight into Sonos future plans though. 

106rallye
June 8, 2021

@Bliz I had to look this up: The Connectivity Standards Alliance Unveils Matter, Formerly Known as Project CHIP - Zigbee Alliance

I'd be interested in what you think Matter would bring to Sonos. 

BlizAuthor
Contributor I
June 8, 2021

I’m hoping to get more connectivity through my smart devices and on board access to HomeKit instead of Airplay 2.  Having Siri as a voice assistant option would be #1. Though Apple seemed to suggest yesterday that you would need a HomePod mini to run commands through anyway. I’m not a developer so I’m not entirely sure how all the behind the scenes stuff works. 

Prominent Collaborator I
July 8, 2021

I’m hoping to get more connectivity through my smart devices and on board access to HomeKit instead of Airplay 2.  Having Siri as a voice assistant option would be #1. Though Apple seemed to suggest yesterday that you would need a HomePod mini to run commands through anyway. I’m not a developer so I’m not entirely sure how all the behind the scenes stuff works. 

I would like to see some integration with this as well. The only thing I don’t understand though is why does it have to be a HomePod Mini? I mean if you have an Apple TV, it’s effective a home hub with Siri integration already but it requires push to talk on the remote. Why not update it so that it can process Siri requests for any third party device? Be way better than having to buy a Apple speaker to play your non-Apple speaker…which makes no sense at all (so I agree with Sonos being upset about this). 

Lyricist I
January 11, 2022

It isunfair.  I used to love sonos. It is being left

behind by apple. I am considering switching. 

Lyricist I
January 11, 2022

After sonos changed and forced Me to buy new devices. Which happen to work left efficient than the former ones I lost My  faith in sonos. The main victims are us. 

Lyricist II
January 21, 2022

Any updates/comms on this by Sonos? It's clear that Sonos is a dead horse if the continue playing bully with ridiculuous patents (changing volume on several devices can be patented, really!?) and won’t play with others. I’ll simply have to start switching over the coming few years (I have 7 Sonos devices at the moment, but Sonos has already forced to to buy new ones, showing again bully behaviour). Enough is enough Sonos.

106rallye
January 21, 2022

 @OlivR What would matter bring to you?

bockersjv
Local Superstar
January 21, 2022

Any updates/comms on this by Sonos? It's clear that Sonos is a dead horse if the continue playing bully with ridiculuous patents (changing volume on several devices can be patented, really!?) and won’t play with others. I’ll simply have to start switching over the coming few years (I have 7 Sonos devices at the moment, but Sonos has already forced to to buy new ones, showing again bully behaviour). Enough is enough Sonos.

Wow that’s some rant for your first post!

What has Sonos forced you to buy?  The bully behaviour was all Googles in that they infringed patents filed by Sonos.  Sonos are well within their right to protect those patents, they have been tested in a court of law to be bonafide.  Besides it’s the technical manner Google employed that was wrong, they could have built a solution that did not infringe on existing patents, but chose not to,

 

Besides this what on earth has this to do with Matter?  And has Matter actually delivered anything?

 

melvimbe
January 21, 2022

Any updates/comms on this by Sonos?

 

 

I’ve done some looking and yet to see how Matter would impact smart speakers in any way.  At least for now, it seems to be focused on setup and control of lights, plugs, cameras and more generic smart devices.  It’s not surprising, considering speakers tend to be a a bit more complex in functionality and control capabilities.  But the point being, I have no idea what anyone would expect Sonos to do about Matter at this point.

 

 

It's clear that Sonos is a dead horse if the continue playing bully with ridiculuous patents (changing volume on several devices can be patented, really!?) and won’t play with others.

 

 

As stated, it’s not the idea that was patented, but the method. Google had the option of paying a license fee to Sonos, or developing a different method of volume control.  The chose to just take the feature away from their customers.  I think you could make a strong argument that if Sonos didn’t defend their IP, then the tech giants would just steal the tech and outprice any competition, using the funds they have from their other lines of business.  There’s not way Sonos or any other smaller business could survive in that sort of environment.

As far as playing with others, an streaming service is welcome to connect with Sonos.  Is that the case with Google’s smart speakers?  Sonos would love to allow Google and Amazon voice to work on the same smart speaker, but Google doesn’t allow it. 

 

 

I’ll simply have to start switching over the coming few years (I have 7 Sonos devices at the moment, but Sonos has already forced to to buy new ones, showing again bully behaviour). Enough is enough Sonos.

 

You were never forced to buy new speakers.  Sonos reached a point where they could no longer keep their older products that had limited capabilities compatible with their new modern speakers, while still offering competitive products and features that customers are looking for. It’s strange how Google and the other tech giants are always in the news about how they are leveraging their massive size to control smaller companies and give themselves competitive advantage, yet some seem to think Sonos is the bully.

Danny