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Ryan S
Retired Sonos Staff
January 21, 2020

End of Software Updates for Legacy Products

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End of Software Updates for Legacy Products

Please note that we’ve created a new thread with some clarifications to questions that have come up several times in this thread. Please see here to continue the discussion if you still have any questions. The information contained in this thread is outdated and may no longer be accurate.

 

We have some important news regarding our oldest Sonos devices shared on the Sonos Blog today. The text of that blog post is being included here for your convenience:

 

Starting in May 2020, some of our oldest products will no longer receive software updates or new features. We want to explain why and your options. 

When we first set out almost 20 years ago to invent the technology to easily listen to any song in any room, most of the ways we listen to music today did not exist. In fact, the first Sonos products were introduced before the first iPhone was announced and when Myspace still ruled social media. 

 

In order to invent multi-room music and smart speakers, we combined the worlds of high-fidelity audio and computing. Every Sonos product has a microprocessor, flash memory, and other hardware components typically found in computers and smartphones.  

 

Since launching our first products, technology has advanced at an exponential rate; from streaming services and voice assistants to wireless networking and Bluetooth capabilities.  Through all of this transformation, we have continued delivering new features via software updates. We’re extremely proud of the fact that we build products that last a long time, and that listeners continue to enjoy them. In fact, 92% of the products we’ve ever shipped are still in use today. That is unheard of in the world of consumer electronics. However, we’ve now come to a point where some of the oldest products have been stretched to their technical limits in terms of memory and processing power.  

This coming May, these legacy products—our original Zone Players, Connect, and Connect:Amp (launched in 2006; includes versions sold until 2015), first-generation Play:5 (launched 2009), CR200 (launched 2009), and Bridge (launched 2007)—will no longer receive software updates or new features. 

 Today the Sonos experience relies on an interconnected ecosystem, giving you access to more than 100 streaming services, voice assistants, and control options like Apple AirPlay 2. Without new software updates, access to services and overall functionality of your sound system will eventually be disrupted, particularly as partners evolve their technology. 

To help you through this transition, we’re providing two options:

Option 1: Continue using these legacy products, recognizing that your system will no longer receive software updates and new features.  

Option 2: Trade up to a new Sonos product with a 30% credit for each legacy product you replace.

If you’re not sure if your products are affected, you can check in the System tab in your sonos.com-account

If you choose to participate in the trade up program, your legacy products will be put in Recycle Mode, a state that deletes personally identifiable information and prepares these products for e-recycling. Recycle Mode also protects unsuspecting people from buying legacy products that are approaching the end of their useful life and won’t provide the Sonos experience customers expect today. Recycle Mode will only apply to the legacy products listed above.

 

We ask that you take your legacy products to a nearby certified e-recycling facility. This is the most environmentally friendly way to recycle. That said, if there isn’t a facility in your area, we are happy to pay for you to ship your products back to Sonos for responsible recycling.    

 

Ideally all our products would last forever, but for now we’re limited by the existing technology. Our responsibility here is threefold: build products that last a long time; continually look for ways to make our products more environmentally friendly through materials, packaging, and our supply chain and take responsibility for helping you through the transition once products near the end of their useful life.  

 

We’ve always believed in freedom of choice, whether that means choosing a certain streaming service or way to control your listening experience. We hope the choices provided here—continuing to use these products without new software updates or trading up to our modern products—enable you to make the choice that’s right for you. 

 

We are honored to have a place in your home and want to make sure that we help continue to bring the best experience we can, even when products reach the end of their useful life. 

 

More information.

 

Please let us know if you have any questions.

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    Enthusiast II
    January 22, 2020

     

    Another important Bluesound question is about any Sonos patent infringement, that can put them in a world of hurt.

    Of course, if Bluesound goes out of business (same with Sonos obviously), nothing will work anymore.  No software updates, no cloud, all the equipment you bought ultimately would be worthless.  That's  what worries me about them.  How solid of a company are they right now (serious question -- I haven’t heard much about them before today)?

    Contributor I
    January 22, 2020

    I would hope at this point, ~12 hours after the email, with this degree of reaction, SONOS will rethink their POV. It's not all that different than when Logitech dropped support for XMPP overnight on their Harmony remotes, and within a day realized how outraged their most loyal customer base was and found a common ground. Hopeful something similar will happen...

    Lyricist II
    January 22, 2020

    I hope so too…

    Friend of mine is using a Python library with his system, might have to look into that. Not really a programmer, however…

    http://python-soco.com/

    Lyricist I
    January 22, 2020

    They obviously forgot to focus group this.  The only reason why we all shouldn’t short the stock is because there is NO WAY they are stupid enough to stick with this plan.  If they reverse course they might be able to salvage the brand.  Maybe.

    Lyricist III
    January 22, 2020

    Dear Sonos,

    There is a way you can save yourselves...

    Admit this is a mistake and find a technical solution that does not involve junking currently capable hardware that can run for many more years.

    My suggestion is a new device that has upgraded wifi, plenty of storage and memory and 2 network ports.That’s it. Simply plug this into a network port of the play 5 or connect and it acts as the brains for the legacy device running all updates. The legacy device can continue to provide its existing services.

    this new device itself may become legacy one day, but still better than junking a speaker that should be ok for another 15 years or more.

    I will be happy to purchase one of these whenever a legacy device reaches proven technical limits.

    This is also a more sustainable long term solution, reducing CO2 of a new speaker and waste and can still make you some $ if fairly priced.

    BTW: You have no solution with an optical out port which I use every day on my connect so must go to another vendor if you brick it.

    you guys must have rocks in your head or have you now got a looney investor pushing you for short term profit?

     

     

    Contributor I
    January 22, 2020

    I was literally about to pull the trigger on a new Sonos sub and then this… Recently picked up the a Beam, grabbed it from Costco so that shit is going right back. Two connects going obsolete and I have a Play Gen2 and 2 Play1s I am going to attempt to dump. I assume resell prices for all equipment is going to tank if Sonos doesn’t immediately walk this back.

     

    As a company who literally survives on your early adopters to push your products why would you even begin to think this was a good idea. It is not like your company has a huge market share and considering how expensive your products are this is going to tank any sales.

     

    It was fun while it lasted, knew it was too good to be true. Farewell

    baconator
    Trending Lyricist I
    January 22, 2020

    This is no different than Apple saying not apps will get updated on iphone 7’s or get system updates or whatever, but this is on such a larger scale because most don’t just have one speaker like a cell phone. 

    I think what would help here is if Sonos would make it like 50% off instead of 30% and know that if we get new products they would be good for 10+ years or something. However, the trust has been broken now, you get a new product from them, how long will it be good for till they kill it off?!?!? I have already started to look at some other products like BOSE and RUSSOUND, see if I can get a good product to do what my Sonos Connect AMPs do.

    Lyricist I
    January 22, 2020

    Hey, Guys - what are you switching to? No way, I’m giving sonos another dime after this crap. 

    Contributor I
    January 22, 2020

    Hey, Guys - what are you switching to? No way, I’m giving sonos another dime after this crap. 

    I am going to research something open source and stick to dumb speakers. It may be the inferior option but at least I won’t be throwing away any money. After this I can’t trust large sums of cash on any “smart” products, they crossed a line here that changes everything.

    Lyricist I
    January 22, 2020

    Sonos is the new comcast.  Get ready to watch their stock prices go into free fall with all the angry folk.  Hell, with the $2k they want from me to upgrade I think imma gonna just short their stock instead.