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Ryan S
Retired Sonos Staff
January 21, 2020

End of Software Updates for Legacy Products

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End of Software Updates for Legacy Products

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We have some important news regarding our oldest Sonos devices shared on the Sonos Blog today. The text of that blog post is being included here for your convenience:

 

Starting in May 2020, some of our oldest products will no longer receive software updates or new features. We want to explain why and your options. 

When we first set out almost 20 years ago to invent the technology to easily listen to any song in any room, most of the ways we listen to music today did not exist. In fact, the first Sonos products were introduced before the first iPhone was announced and when Myspace still ruled social media. 

 

In order to invent multi-room music and smart speakers, we combined the worlds of high-fidelity audio and computing. Every Sonos product has a microprocessor, flash memory, and other hardware components typically found in computers and smartphones.  

 

Since launching our first products, technology has advanced at an exponential rate; from streaming services and voice assistants to wireless networking and Bluetooth capabilities.  Through all of this transformation, we have continued delivering new features via software updates. We’re extremely proud of the fact that we build products that last a long time, and that listeners continue to enjoy them. In fact, 92% of the products we’ve ever shipped are still in use today. That is unheard of in the world of consumer electronics. However, we’ve now come to a point where some of the oldest products have been stretched to their technical limits in terms of memory and processing power.  

This coming May, these legacy products—our original Zone Players, Connect, and Connect:Amp (launched in 2006; includes versions sold until 2015), first-generation Play:5 (launched 2009), CR200 (launched 2009), and Bridge (launched 2007)—will no longer receive software updates or new features. 

 Today the Sonos experience relies on an interconnected ecosystem, giving you access to more than 100 streaming services, voice assistants, and control options like Apple AirPlay 2. Without new software updates, access to services and overall functionality of your sound system will eventually be disrupted, particularly as partners evolve their technology. 

To help you through this transition, we’re providing two options:

Option 1: Continue using these legacy products, recognizing that your system will no longer receive software updates and new features.  

Option 2: Trade up to a new Sonos product with a 30% credit for each legacy product you replace.

If you’re not sure if your products are affected, you can check in the System tab in your sonos.com-account

If you choose to participate in the trade up program, your legacy products will be put in Recycle Mode, a state that deletes personally identifiable information and prepares these products for e-recycling. Recycle Mode also protects unsuspecting people from buying legacy products that are approaching the end of their useful life and won’t provide the Sonos experience customers expect today. Recycle Mode will only apply to the legacy products listed above.

 

We ask that you take your legacy products to a nearby certified e-recycling facility. This is the most environmentally friendly way to recycle. That said, if there isn’t a facility in your area, we are happy to pay for you to ship your products back to Sonos for responsible recycling.    

 

Ideally all our products would last forever, but for now we’re limited by the existing technology. Our responsibility here is threefold: build products that last a long time; continually look for ways to make our products more environmentally friendly through materials, packaging, and our supply chain and take responsibility for helping you through the transition once products near the end of their useful life.  

 

We’ve always believed in freedom of choice, whether that means choosing a certain streaming service or way to control your listening experience. We hope the choices provided here—continuing to use these products without new software updates or trading up to our modern products—enable you to make the choice that’s right for you. 

 

We are honored to have a place in your home and want to make sure that we help continue to bring the best experience we can, even when products reach the end of their useful life. 

 

More information.

 

Please let us know if you have any questions.

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    Trending Lyricist I
    January 21, 2020

    Like the rest of you, I received the EOL and upgrade notification.  I have a Play5 that is impacted, and was told I could trade it in for 30% off of a Move?  WTF? Not even a 1-to-1 swap from a component perspective.

    So what system is everyone changing to?  I think I'm done with Sonos.

    Ryan S
    Ryan SAuthor
    Retired Sonos Staff
    January 21, 2020

    Like the rest of you, I received the EOL and upgrade notification.  I have a Play5 that is impacted, and was told I could trade it in for 30% off of a Move?  WTF? Not even a 1-to-1 swap from a component perspective.

    So what system is everyone changing to?  I think I'm done with Sonos.

    @Barry McCockinner, the 30% trade up credit can be used on any Sonos player and even some bundles. So you can use it on the Play:5 gen2 if you’d like.

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    Lyricist III
    January 21, 2020

    If Sonos do not work out a solution to allow my various “legacy” Sonos products to work in harmony with my non-legacy products I will sell all my products and never buy another Sonos product again. 
     

    I feel totally betrayed. I am happy with the way they work currently and have no desire for additional features or support of streaming services as I have my entire CD collection on a NAS.

     

    Lyricist I
    January 21, 2020

    I have to say I am disappointed as well. I have 9 (8+1 spare) connect amps that are all legacy (oldest about 3 years). Now I have to buy 9 new amps at about  ($649x0.7) for $4088? There are a lot of other options now. I cannot see anything but bad publicity for Sonos and another lesson on why one needs to avoid vendor lock when making purchases.

    Lyricist III
    January 21, 2020

     If they leased their music players I’m sure they would have found a wast to keep them working vice recycling perfectly good speakers and amps and wireless receivers

     

    i thought Sonos had its own network to stream the music. Since you can pair one speaker with another isn’t only the source speaker actually doing any processing. Seams like a better approach would be to sell a new processor that would pair with the older component and tackle the memory/cpu shortfalls. 

     

    Enthusiast I
    January 21, 2020

    If Sonos do not work out a solution to allow my various “legacy” Sonos products to work in harmony with my non-legacy products I will sell all my products and never buy another Sonos product again. 
     

    How will you sell them ? Who would buy “legacy” Sonos products now ?

    Resale value has just cratered..

     

    Avid Contributor I
    January 21, 2020

    Ok so knowing this is how Sonos is gonna roll, I’m selling all my Sonos equipment even though it’s all modern hardware. This will happen to my stuff one day not to far off and it will make it all worthless in one swoop. 
     

    I want nothing to do with any company that works like this. Especially as we also know Sonos have developed a software Kill switch that will permanently disable any older products when you trade in. What’s to stop them making this widespread? 

    Ryan S
    Ryan SAuthor
    Retired Sonos Staff
    January 21, 2020

    This is from an article today: “Sonos told CNBC in May it will launch a way for customers to segment the older products into a separate speaker group, which won’t receive updates, while another group of newer products will continue to get new software.”

    If this is true, it will soften the blow for someone like me who owns just one gen 1Play:5, but it’s still disappointing. What will happen when my Play:3’s and 1’s eventually reach their end of life (from a software upgrade point of view—my Play:5 sounds just as good today as it did the day I inboxed it)?  Anyway, hoping Sonos can find a way to breathe more life into older hardware. 

    @V1965, this is true. Though speaker group may be a little vague. That means having a Sonos Legacy system and a Sonos Modern system, separate systems but both running, and capable of being controlled by the devices in your home.

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    Lyricist III
    January 21, 2020

    Adding more features and not being able to use them is one thing. 

     

    However, let’s hope no current features are removed, especially streaming services. 

    Don’t want to hear come May “We are changing the way we integrate Tidal/Soundcloud/Qobuz and you will only be able to use this with the latest software version. This means if you have legacy products you will have to upgrade to new kit.”

     

     

    If Tidal/Soundcloud/Qobuz changes their interface codec/security/etc. and your Sonos firmware is frozen at the old version, it means Tidal/Soundcloud/Qobuz will cease working.  Nothing can be done about that.

    If this is truly the case then sonos need to stop supporting those streaming services...

    Contributor I
    January 21, 2020

    Curiously enough, the same day as this announcement from Sonos arrived in my inbox, I got the following email from Toyota.

     

    END OF CAR SUPPORT

    Dear Customer

    In May 2020, Toyota will cease supporting your 2015 Toyota Corolla.  While you will continue to be able to drive your car, we regret that your car may start to slow down and will not be able to be driven on new or upgraded roads and may not accept modern fuels.    Even if you have more up to date cars in your family, as your cars all sit on the same driveway, these cars also will be unable to be driven on newer roads.   

     

    Yours

    Toyota Support 

     

    That’s how ridiculous this is.