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Ryan S
Retired Sonos Staff
January 21, 2020

End of Software Updates for Legacy Products

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End of Software Updates for Legacy Products

Please note that we’ve created a new thread with some clarifications to questions that have come up several times in this thread. Please see here to continue the discussion if you still have any questions. The information contained in this thread is outdated and may no longer be accurate.

 

We have some important news regarding our oldest Sonos devices shared on the Sonos Blog today. The text of that blog post is being included here for your convenience:

 

Starting in May 2020, some of our oldest products will no longer receive software updates or new features. We want to explain why and your options. 

When we first set out almost 20 years ago to invent the technology to easily listen to any song in any room, most of the ways we listen to music today did not exist. In fact, the first Sonos products were introduced before the first iPhone was announced and when Myspace still ruled social media. 

 

In order to invent multi-room music and smart speakers, we combined the worlds of high-fidelity audio and computing. Every Sonos product has a microprocessor, flash memory, and other hardware components typically found in computers and smartphones.  

 

Since launching our first products, technology has advanced at an exponential rate; from streaming services and voice assistants to wireless networking and Bluetooth capabilities.  Through all of this transformation, we have continued delivering new features via software updates. We’re extremely proud of the fact that we build products that last a long time, and that listeners continue to enjoy them. In fact, 92% of the products we’ve ever shipped are still in use today. That is unheard of in the world of consumer electronics. However, we’ve now come to a point where some of the oldest products have been stretched to their technical limits in terms of memory and processing power.  

This coming May, these legacy products—our original Zone Players, Connect, and Connect:Amp (launched in 2006; includes versions sold until 2015), first-generation Play:5 (launched 2009), CR200 (launched 2009), and Bridge (launched 2007)—will no longer receive software updates or new features. 

 Today the Sonos experience relies on an interconnected ecosystem, giving you access to more than 100 streaming services, voice assistants, and control options like Apple AirPlay 2. Without new software updates, access to services and overall functionality of your sound system will eventually be disrupted, particularly as partners evolve their technology. 

To help you through this transition, we’re providing two options:

Option 1: Continue using these legacy products, recognizing that your system will no longer receive software updates and new features.  

Option 2: Trade up to a new Sonos product with a 30% credit for each legacy product you replace.

If you’re not sure if your products are affected, you can check in the System tab in your sonos.com-account

If you choose to participate in the trade up program, your legacy products will be put in Recycle Mode, a state that deletes personally identifiable information and prepares these products for e-recycling. Recycle Mode also protects unsuspecting people from buying legacy products that are approaching the end of their useful life and won’t provide the Sonos experience customers expect today. Recycle Mode will only apply to the legacy products listed above.

 

We ask that you take your legacy products to a nearby certified e-recycling facility. This is the most environmentally friendly way to recycle. That said, if there isn’t a facility in your area, we are happy to pay for you to ship your products back to Sonos for responsible recycling.    

 

Ideally all our products would last forever, but for now we’re limited by the existing technology. Our responsibility here is threefold: build products that last a long time; continually look for ways to make our products more environmentally friendly through materials, packaging, and our supply chain and take responsibility for helping you through the transition once products near the end of their useful life.  

 

We’ve always believed in freedom of choice, whether that means choosing a certain streaming service or way to control your listening experience. We hope the choices provided here—continuing to use these products without new software updates or trading up to our modern products—enable you to make the choice that’s right for you. 

 

We are honored to have a place in your home and want to make sure that we help continue to bring the best experience we can, even when products reach the end of their useful life. 

 

More information.

 

Please let us know if you have any questions.

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    jgatie
    January 21, 2020

    I feel like I’ve been robbed by Sonos.

     

    I have a Connect Amp I bought exactly 2 years ago, at the time it cost me £499 and they’re offering me 30% trade in for it?

    I’m sure this will be the last time I buy anything from Sonos. I’ve written a complaint to them not that it’ll make any difference. I feel like an idiot not worrying if the Connect Amp had been out for too long. 

    There are other companies making similar products, at the time I was going to buy something much more expensive and I’ll look at other companies products out of principle.

     

    Unless you were sold very old stock, a Connect from 2 years ago is not legacy and will not be affected.  

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    Lyricist II
    January 21, 2020

    The audio hardware in my speakers is not outdated, only the “computer” in the products. 

    You should design the products to allow the computer circuit board to be replaced when needed. I would be willing to pay for that. 

    I am not going to replace my legacy products with new Sonos products, that will be outdated in some 5ish years. 

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    Lyricist I
    January 21, 2020

    I just received notice that my Sonos system will soon no longer receive software updates. This is highly disappointing given the investment in 2 Sonos Connects, 1 bridge, 2 Sonos 5s and 1 sub-woofer. 

    I don’t think a 30% discount on replacements is sufficient to retain me as a customer.  I’ve been happy with it to date and the idea of rebuying the entire system to satisfy an unsustainable business model is troubling. The alternative of turning this gear into a network of door stops even though it currently works perfectly isn’t sitting well with me either. 

    You’ve gone from hero to zero in my books. Good job.

     

    Signed, 

    Formerly satisfied customer

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    Lyricist I
    January 21, 2020

    Dear SONOS. You have two ways to solve this proper way or you will eventually go bankrupt.

    One way to solve this is to come up with a solution in your operating system that makes legacy speakers work WITH the newer ones in an integrated mode where only newer devices can utilize the new functionality.

    Second would be to provide an update hardware kit for older items  (at a fair/low cost) just replacing the microprocessor or whatever is needed  

    I have 10 pcs of Your hardware and 5 are now classified as Legacy. The cost for upgrade is ridiculously high while not giving me any new functionality I need.  Like many others I don’t care about future add-on functionality/ voice interaction and so forth.  Just let the basic stuff keep on going such as integrations to streaming services. I will never spend any more money nor recommend Your products to anyone if you don’t handle this differently than you are currently proposing.  I am really regretting investing in a brand new Beam just before Christmas.  
     

     

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    Contributor I
    January 21, 2020

    I have four units in my house I have just been told that two are no longer supported with software updates why should I continue to support Sonos as if I upgrade the two old units in four or five years time I could  find myself in the same situation as I am now with two units not being supported and I will end up in this situation every time they decide to withdraw support to units

    I am so disappointed with the situation If I am going to spend a shed loads of money on a new system then maybe I should look at other make and models in the market place

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    Lyricist I
    January 21, 2020

    I think that most of us who have supported SONOS for many years are annoyed by this news (the ‘we’ll have more news in May’ comment beggars belief!).

    For a few years now SONOS has been dying...just look at all of the unhappy customers on Google Play who, like me, are forever having problems with the crappy app, way before today’s announcement - This never used to happen, SONOS used to be a top class product.

    Companies like what SONOS has become deserve to die...it will be good riddance. Any company so blind and stupid that puts sales way above reliability and loyal customers (especially when they’re not the size of Sony, Apple, Panasonic, etc) doesn’t last long - Pebble smartwatch, anyone?!

    SONOS needs to remember that the cash-rich fashion types have little in the way of loyalty and will move on from SONOS...the loyal HiFi/music enthusiasts were customers for life (in many cases).

    Greed is a terrible thing. Perhaps SONOS are building up ready to be bought out by Apple. Who cares, I will be telling everyone how SONOS treats its most loyal customers with contempt.

    Right...off to look at SONOS alternatives. Bye-bye! 

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    Contributor I
    January 21, 2020

    Anybody any idea how long the trade up offer is going to last?

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    Enthusiast II
    January 21, 2020

    This is unbelievable news.

    As per so many other people, I’ve been a massive supporter for many years ….. and raved to so many people about how fantastic Sonos is, and they went on to buy.

    I’m now 15 units around the house, and all but two will be phased out in 4 months time.
    OK, they’ll still work, but none (including the two I’ve bought this year) will receive ANY future updates.

    So, unless I replace 13 units, that’s it, the system will gradually break down.

    There is not a chance that I’d buy any more Sonos to replace them, because they’ll probably be phased out in a much smaller timeline. This is a scary thought too ….. if this is the way that technology companies are planning to evolve. Little help for the planet going on here!

    Surely Sonos will need to reverse this decision, as they’ll see hugely dwindling sales as a result of this, and all the bad press they’ll be getting. We won’t all be excitedly off to the shops to upgrade, to have just the same functionality that we had previously, at a huge cost.

    Such a stupidly thought out plan, which wasn’t mentioned in any way, when we all bought our systems.

    There was no ‘this product expires in 2020’ label on them!

    Angry.

     

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    Ryan S
    Ryan SAuthor
    Retired Sonos Staff
    January 21, 2020

    Does anyone know why some Connect:Amps are legacy and some are not?  Is there a version 2.0 of these?  Wondering if the Connect Amps that I have that are currently labeled as non-legacy are good for now or if that’s an error. 

    Updated components in more recently manufactured Connects and Connect:Amps are able to support new features and services in the future.

     

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    Lyricist I
    January 21, 2020

     


    This coming May, these legacy products—our original Zone Players, Connect, and Connect:Amp (launched in 2006; includes versions sold until 2015), first-generation Play:5 (launched 2009), CR200 (launched 2009), and Bridge (launched 2007)—will no longer receive software updates or new features. 

     

    To help you through this transition, we’re providing two options:

    Option 1: Continue using these legacy products, recognizing that your system will no longer receive software updates and new features.  

    In no way did I purchase an expensive sound system, to now be told it would be redundant in the near future. what a con/scam
    If you’re truely worried about processing power for future upgrades, turn off all of the non-music related shit you have overloaded the system with. You have forgotten your core business. I was sold on the fact you were music lovers....you are becoming something very different.
    I’ll keep an eye out for the class-action, it will be coming your way soon no doubt.

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