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Ryan S
Retired Sonos Staff
January 21, 2020

End of Software Updates for Legacy Products

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End of Software Updates for Legacy Products

Please note that we’ve created a new thread with some clarifications to questions that have come up several times in this thread. Please see here to continue the discussion if you still have any questions. The information contained in this thread is outdated and may no longer be accurate.

 

We have some important news regarding our oldest Sonos devices shared on the Sonos Blog today. The text of that blog post is being included here for your convenience:

 

Starting in May 2020, some of our oldest products will no longer receive software updates or new features. We want to explain why and your options. 

When we first set out almost 20 years ago to invent the technology to easily listen to any song in any room, most of the ways we listen to music today did not exist. In fact, the first Sonos products were introduced before the first iPhone was announced and when Myspace still ruled social media. 

 

In order to invent multi-room music and smart speakers, we combined the worlds of high-fidelity audio and computing. Every Sonos product has a microprocessor, flash memory, and other hardware components typically found in computers and smartphones.  

 

Since launching our first products, technology has advanced at an exponential rate; from streaming services and voice assistants to wireless networking and Bluetooth capabilities.  Through all of this transformation, we have continued delivering new features via software updates. We’re extremely proud of the fact that we build products that last a long time, and that listeners continue to enjoy them. In fact, 92% of the products we’ve ever shipped are still in use today. That is unheard of in the world of consumer electronics. However, we’ve now come to a point where some of the oldest products have been stretched to their technical limits in terms of memory and processing power.  

This coming May, these legacy products—our original Zone Players, Connect, and Connect:Amp (launched in 2006; includes versions sold until 2015), first-generation Play:5 (launched 2009), CR200 (launched 2009), and Bridge (launched 2007)—will no longer receive software updates or new features. 

 Today the Sonos experience relies on an interconnected ecosystem, giving you access to more than 100 streaming services, voice assistants, and control options like Apple AirPlay 2. Without new software updates, access to services and overall functionality of your sound system will eventually be disrupted, particularly as partners evolve their technology. 

To help you through this transition, we’re providing two options:

Option 1: Continue using these legacy products, recognizing that your system will no longer receive software updates and new features.  

Option 2: Trade up to a new Sonos product with a 30% credit for each legacy product you replace.

If you’re not sure if your products are affected, you can check in the System tab in your sonos.com-account

If you choose to participate in the trade up program, your legacy products will be put in Recycle Mode, a state that deletes personally identifiable information and prepares these products for e-recycling. Recycle Mode also protects unsuspecting people from buying legacy products that are approaching the end of their useful life and won’t provide the Sonos experience customers expect today. Recycle Mode will only apply to the legacy products listed above.

 

We ask that you take your legacy products to a nearby certified e-recycling facility. This is the most environmentally friendly way to recycle. That said, if there isn’t a facility in your area, we are happy to pay for you to ship your products back to Sonos for responsible recycling.    

 

Ideally all our products would last forever, but for now we’re limited by the existing technology. Our responsibility here is threefold: build products that last a long time; continually look for ways to make our products more environmentally friendly through materials, packaging, and our supply chain and take responsibility for helping you through the transition once products near the end of their useful life.  

 

We’ve always believed in freedom of choice, whether that means choosing a certain streaming service or way to control your listening experience. We hope the choices provided here—continuing to use these products without new software updates or trading up to our modern products—enable you to make the choice that’s right for you. 

 

We are honored to have a place in your home and want to make sure that we help continue to bring the best experience we can, even when products reach the end of their useful life. 

 

More information.

 

Please let us know if you have any questions.

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    1377 replies

    Lyricist II
    January 22, 2020

    Patrick Spence is the CEO of Sonos. He joined Sonos in 2012.

     

    He is now a legacy product and should be unsupported.

     

    Click the like button below if you think he should be removed as CEO

     

    Lyricist II
    January 22, 2020

    Again! Think about it for 5 minutes! There is a perfect work around. It is very simple, you just need to take 5 minutes to sus out how to do it.

    Enthusiast I
    January 22, 2020

    Sonos owners, who happen to know which way to hold a screwdriver, should be offered an option to buy an upgraded motherboard at a nominal fee.


    https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Sonos+Play+5+Motherboard+Replacement/87677

    I like your thinking - that is if a new generation motherboard was able to fit the old speaker layout. This is better than buying a completely new product for a rip off cost.

    I’d actually be willing to pay a reasonable cost to send it away to be upgraded by an approved Sonos engineer. Sonos could then also recycle the old motherboard responsibly too. I’d also then expect a decent warranty on the upgraded product and some kind of promise that it wouldn’t be discontinued in a substantial time period.

    Lyricist I
    January 22, 2020

    Without sifting through the thousands of very angry responses and probably thousands more to come, can anyone tell me if and how to continue using my legacy products with my non-legacy products?

    I’ve invested over £4000 on my Sonos system, and I say invested as at the time I purchased, I saw it as an investment as this was how it was sold to me, a speaker that was long lasting and very reliable.  I have 5 x Play:5s that are legacy but also 2 x Playbars, 1 x Sub and 4 x Play:1s all of which, from what I can see will be unusable eventually.  Unless theres a reasonable fix (and you can stick your 30% off upgrades), I’ll never purchase another Sonos as I’m sure many others won’t either.  And also, not that I’ll have to due to the bad press and complaints this is getting, but I’ll never advise anyone to purchase Sonos again.  And I say again because, I have previously.  This is unacceptable.  I’m not made of money, but bear in mind, your angry customers have made you of money!

    Lyricist II
    January 22, 2020

    If Sonos do not reverse this decision ASAP I will be selling all of my Sonos equipment because it wont be long before none of the products will be supported as SONOS will have gone out of business. 

    Who do you plan to sell to?  The only market for “legacy” product will be suckers worse than us!

    We bought this stuff with a reasonable expectation they would always be able to continue to function to their abilities when purchased.  I, like many, couldn’t give a crap about airplay, bluetooth, voice control, some new streaming service I don’t use, etc.  If I want that, I can have it with the new equipment, but that’s not forcing me to throw away thousands of dollars of good equipment that was working just fine...

    Enthusiast II
    January 22, 2020

    Interesting observation from this morning: I subscribe to used Sonos equipment for sale on Sweden’s largest buy/sell site, and this morning there was about ten times more for sale than on an average day. All legacy products. We have some more disguntled customers coming up...

    January 22, 2020

    @Kumar: you originally stated: “As of now it appears that you will have to leave one legacy unit powered on all the time to prevent the rest of such from being bricked via an update that slips past unwittingly.”

    This is incorrect.

    How so? If all my legacy units are powered off, Sonos will apply the update to all the non legacy products that are on at the time the update is requested. But if even one legacy product is seen in the system by virtue of it being powered on, no updates will be applied even if requested. Inadvertently or otherwise.

    That is what I meant. What am I missing?

    First, it’s just speculation as to how update policies will be applied. Second, what players get ‘bricked’, under any update scenario?

    I have already replied to the bricked situation as I see it in a post in the last hour here, for the last time.

    And Ryan has said on the first page of this thread that updates will be applied if no legacy products are powered on when the update is invoked. Which I have asked him to reconsider, but Sonos rarely does that.

    Enough said.

    Contributor I
    January 22, 2020

    This affects 7 of 24 of my Sonos devices.

    Just because Sonos “engineers” can not figure how to keep working older devices in the same network with more powerful ones?

    No.

    Never buying another one if they do not reverse course on this.

    Lyricist II
    January 22, 2020

    I will be buying some cheap amps as there is a very easy way to use your legacy kit.

    you just need to think about it. If you were clever enough to set it up in the first place then I have every confidence in you that you can work it out.

    However if I post it here then I believe Sonos will find a way to stop you.

    1 x cup of tea 1x 5 minute think = eureka, by Jove I think he/she’s got it!

    Lyricist I
    January 22, 2020

    I understand that my 2005 amp’s and 2011 connects will not be able to use new features/ technology but you have already a solution for this.

    i.e. when I wanted Airplay support I simply purchased a new One (gen 1) linked it to my existing system and when I wish to listen via airplay I group the new speaker with whichever room(s) I am in and everything works flawlessly. (Plus I do not need to be in the room where my One is. My iPhone links to it no matter where I am in the house I assume via my wifi network)

    Please come up with a similar solution for future updates.

    Replacing my 4 ZP100’s and 2 ZP90’s in one go is not an option.