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Ryan S
Retired Sonos Staff
January 21, 2020

End of Software Updates for Legacy Products

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End of Software Updates for Legacy Products

Please note that we’ve created a new thread with some clarifications to questions that have come up several times in this thread. Please see here to continue the discussion if you still have any questions. The information contained in this thread is outdated and may no longer be accurate.

 

We have some important news regarding our oldest Sonos devices shared on the Sonos Blog today. The text of that blog post is being included here for your convenience:

 

Starting in May 2020, some of our oldest products will no longer receive software updates or new features. We want to explain why and your options. 

When we first set out almost 20 years ago to invent the technology to easily listen to any song in any room, most of the ways we listen to music today did not exist. In fact, the first Sonos products were introduced before the first iPhone was announced and when Myspace still ruled social media. 

 

In order to invent multi-room music and smart speakers, we combined the worlds of high-fidelity audio and computing. Every Sonos product has a microprocessor, flash memory, and other hardware components typically found in computers and smartphones.  

 

Since launching our first products, technology has advanced at an exponential rate; from streaming services and voice assistants to wireless networking and Bluetooth capabilities.  Through all of this transformation, we have continued delivering new features via software updates. We’re extremely proud of the fact that we build products that last a long time, and that listeners continue to enjoy them. In fact, 92% of the products we’ve ever shipped are still in use today. That is unheard of in the world of consumer electronics. However, we’ve now come to a point where some of the oldest products have been stretched to their technical limits in terms of memory and processing power.  

This coming May, these legacy products—our original Zone Players, Connect, and Connect:Amp (launched in 2006; includes versions sold until 2015), first-generation Play:5 (launched 2009), CR200 (launched 2009), and Bridge (launched 2007)—will no longer receive software updates or new features. 

 Today the Sonos experience relies on an interconnected ecosystem, giving you access to more than 100 streaming services, voice assistants, and control options like Apple AirPlay 2. Without new software updates, access to services and overall functionality of your sound system will eventually be disrupted, particularly as partners evolve their technology. 

To help you through this transition, we’re providing two options:

Option 1: Continue using these legacy products, recognizing that your system will no longer receive software updates and new features.  

Option 2: Trade up to a new Sonos product with a 30% credit for each legacy product you replace.

If you’re not sure if your products are affected, you can check in the System tab in your sonos.com-account

If you choose to participate in the trade up program, your legacy products will be put in Recycle Mode, a state that deletes personally identifiable information and prepares these products for e-recycling. Recycle Mode also protects unsuspecting people from buying legacy products that are approaching the end of their useful life and won’t provide the Sonos experience customers expect today. Recycle Mode will only apply to the legacy products listed above.

 

We ask that you take your legacy products to a nearby certified e-recycling facility. This is the most environmentally friendly way to recycle. That said, if there isn’t a facility in your area, we are happy to pay for you to ship your products back to Sonos for responsible recycling.    

 

Ideally all our products would last forever, but for now we’re limited by the existing technology. Our responsibility here is threefold: build products that last a long time; continually look for ways to make our products more environmentally friendly through materials, packaging, and our supply chain and take responsibility for helping you through the transition once products near the end of their useful life.  

 

We’ve always believed in freedom of choice, whether that means choosing a certain streaming service or way to control your listening experience. We hope the choices provided here—continuing to use these products without new software updates or trading up to our modern products—enable you to make the choice that’s right for you. 

 

We are honored to have a place in your home and want to make sure that we help continue to bring the best experience we can, even when products reach the end of their useful life. 

 

More information.

 

Please let us know if you have any questions.

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    1377 replies

    Lyricist III
    January 22, 2020

    It’s ironic that older whole-home systems (like my parent’s home that have been working perfectly since the 80s and only upgraded if/when/what component they wanted) are still going strong and are in no harm whatsoever. 

    Here I am with a system I thought was far more superior and now I wish I had just spent that money wiring mine the conventional way like theirs. 
     

    I hope Sonos gets hit with a lawsuit, I’m already brainstorming ideas on alternatives.  
     

    I’m hoping other companies cash in on Sonos’ decision to kill their own brand.   
     

    Lyricist III
    January 22, 2020

    I am LIVID.  I too have personally spent over $3,000 worth of Sonos equipment and have been your company’s Pied Piper making fanatics out of friends, family, and random shoppers I have proselytized to in the stores were Sonos products are sold.  I’ve given Sonos speakers as Christmas gifts and purchased them for church raffles and company party door prizes.  The best your company can do is offer 30% off of a $700 amplifier??  TOOLFOOL is correct, YOU GUYS SUCK.  I’m DONE being a SONOS SUCKER!!

    Dfenes
    Contributor I
    January 22, 2020

    I've got 13 speakers in two different accounts. I've given them to as Christmas presents.

    Looking at this I'm sorry to say:"No more Sonos for me" 

    Lyricist I
    January 22, 2020

    Am I from a different planet for feeling taken hostage by a company that wants to sell its new products to users after a few years?

    i am outraged about the email I received, telling me that four component, some not that old, will stop receiving updates after May. 
    i have been promoting SONOS to friends for years. This email triggers a 180 degree in my position. 
    I now regret owning the system. 

    Contributor II
    January 22, 2020

    Appalling. I understand that products eventually become old, obsolete, discontinued, too costly to support. However you are taking all new devices as hostage by not updating them unless the legacy devices are ringfenced in a separate network. 

    Moreover, you will still be supporting the Play3? It’s older than the Play5 Gen 1 you are scrapping. Doesn’t add up. 

    This is creating e-waste on an unprecedented, industrial scale. Not sure I want to continue with such an irresponsible company. 

    Never mind all the money I just lost. I still have a few older Connect AMP, Play 5 from 2015. Five years later you virtually make them useless.

    So let’s say I go for the 30% Trade Up discount. What guarantee do I have you in 2025 won’t be telling me it’s time to replace again.

    I have around 20 SONOS devices in my two houses. Such a bad investment. I sincerely regret it.

    Trending Lyricist I
    January 22, 2020

    From the Verge:

    “But this is the first time that software support is ending, so some Sonos systems will get stuck on whatever software they’re running in May — unless customers quarantine the older gadgets into a secondary network. This software flow is still being developed, and Sonos doesn’t even mention that the option is coming on its FAQ page.”

     

    not all doom and gloom it seems.

    Lyricist I
    January 22, 2020

    I invested in sonos as my whole home system… now you obsolete it piece by piece like a disposable product… FU.   I’ll put a $79 echo or $29 dot in every room next time.   5 zones going down in flames.

    Avid Contributor I
    January 22, 2020

    Summarizing 3 main points here about the recent Sonos EOL announcement.

     

    1. End of life dates need to be announced in advance of folks investing in a product. If you buy a chromebook now you know the date it will stop receiving updates and potentially not be compatible with partner software. It’s obviously not ethical or OK to tell someone who may just have bought an AMP yesterday that their product may not function correctly and is worth less. We aren’t dealing with an OS here where people are aware that their products come in versions and can break at the software level. It’s egregious enough that legality and class actions are likely in play.
       
    2. The narrative is that people have a choice and we’re hearing things like... “If I choose to trade in” or if “I go with keeping my old system”. This should be rejected. Yes, you have the choice to eat your sandwich and buy something new, whatever that may be. Or, you can not accept that a solvent company is making a business decision to bait n switch you. 
    1. Regardless of the worst case scenarios, I think posts like this are  almost unnecessary. Failing to do the minimum to make the basic functions work would be brand suicide. Even a tiny percentage of us who are unable to use our devices would be a turd in the olympic swimming pool. Yes, another reference to the turd this is. Even Microsoft has pushed back their PRE-announced EOL. I’m sure the new SONOS investor group looked at this on paper and it made sense. The software engineers made sense as well. In the real world it will be too expensive. They have to be about to walk this back in the form of clarifying that old devices can not be bricked.
    Lyricist III
    January 22, 2020

    From the FAQ page:

    How long until existing functionality or features are impacted?

    We don’t expect any immediate impact from ending software updates. 

    As changes are made to technology in the future, particularly by music service and voice partners, access to certain services or features may be disrupted. An example would be a music service partner issuing a new update that isn’t backwards compatible with legacy software.

     

    My legacy system will NOT be traded up as Sonos recommends.  Me and my system will gladly lose the music service provider(s) than isn’t backwards compatible with legacy software.  Just don’t brick my perfectly functioning speakers with future updates in May.

    Lyricist I
    January 22, 2020

    Early adopter and evangelist too here, long-time supporter and have showed off the Sonos system countless times. I have a house full of Sonos stuff which is now forced into obsolescence and, thanks to their bricking patches, has no resale value. 

     

    This is outrageous.