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Mike H
Retired Sonos Staff
May 21, 2024

Player / Controller Versions - Why Update?

Player / Controller Versions - Why Update?

We have seen a few posts with people talking about firmware versions and being at different places within the last few updates. While this isn’t new to the recent Sonos app update, there are more and more conversations about it and I thought I’d try to help give some context to what we’re seeing.

One thing that may not be widely known is that by turning off Auto-Updates in the app store, it only addresses the updating of your controller app and not necessarily the firmware of the players. This means that while you may be blocking your controller from updating, the speakers may still update their firmware if someone else updates the system from their controller. Different people end up in different parts of the updating pipeline and while all the problems look different, they can usually be traced to this mismatch. You can check your speaker firmware by going to: Settings (Gear in top-right) > Manage > About My System

 

Here are a few compatibility scenarios that you may find yourself in: 

 

Old Player Firmware (78.1-52020)  + Old Sonos S2 App

  • In-app notification that an update is available.

  • Alarm Settings are available.

  • Any attempt to add a player to the system will require an app update, which will be followed by a player update before you can add a player.

 

Old Player Firmware (78.1-52020) + New Sonos App (Pre-Alarms Fix)

  • No indication about an app update being available.

  • Alarm Settings remain disabled.

  • Any attempt to add a player to the system will require an app update, which will be followed by a player update before you can add a player.

 

Old Player Firmware (78.1-52020) + New Sonos App (Alarms Fix)

  • No indication in the app about a system update being available unless you seek it out in Settings > Manage > System Updates > Check for Updates

  • Alarm Settings remain disabled.

  • Any attempt to add a player to the system will require a player update 

 

New Player Firmware (79.0-52294) + Old Sonos S2 App

  • In-app notification that an update is available.

  • Cross-version compatibility mode will block out access to all of Settings and Setup.

  • Will be encouraged within the app to go to the app store to update their app.

 

New Player Firmware (79.0-52294) + New Sonos App (Pre-Alarms Fix)

  • No indication in the app about an update being available.

  • Alarm Settings remain disabled.

  • Any attempt to add a player to the system will require an app update, which will be followed by a player update before you can add a player.

 

New Player Firmware (79.0-52294) + New Sonos App (Alarms Fix) 

  • Everything is up to date.

    • Improved playback settings including “Play next,” “add to end of queue,” and on iOS, the mute button

    • Improved product setup, Bluetooth discovery and WiFi settings

    • Added sleep timer settings

    • Improved Trueplay setup on iOS

    • Introduced distance settings for home theater surrounds

    • Improved navigation for users who are blind or visually-impaired 

    • Added VoiceOver support for toast messages on iOS

 

Hope this provides a little bit of context into what you might be experiencing and why you might be seeing it. Yes, the official guidance is to keep your devices updated - but more importantly we wanted to explicitly show what it looks like depending on the current state of your system. Hope you find this useful!

Note: This does not mean that updating alone will solve every system problem. We are very much aware of some issues around product set-up - however the very first thing before getting support would be to ensure your app and devices are completely updated.

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62 replies

Lyricist II
May 27, 2024

Anybody seen the MUTE button anywhere?

i must be missing something… ?!

Enthusiast I
May 28, 2024

Personally, I cut my boxes from the internet and stopped using the new iOS app. After all, it does not work anymore as it does not let me skip this “Update your firmware” screen.

Why do I not update my SONOS Firmware anymore? Because I have totally lost trust in SONOS. To me it seems they want to have everything move through their cloud service. Without a clear public statement what the long term plan of SONOS is, there can be no trust.

All that CEO mumble stuff is just wishwash and not clear communication what SONOS wants to do to my speakers. I am afraid I am going to lose my local access and need to run everything through their SONOS cloud. With their release notes containing no information what so ever and their totally unreliable customer communication (yeah, great app update) SONOS is clearly a dead end.

Lyricist III
May 28, 2024

The new upgrade is terrible, I would like Sonos to go back to the previous version. There are too many problems to even list.

 

Lyricist III
May 28, 2024

I was going to buy more speakers but not now with this recent update. I currently have 7 speakers and I’m considering just scraping the whole system and going to something different if Sonos doesn’t fix the problems soon.

June 3, 2024
  • Any attempt to add a player to the system will require an app update, which will be followed by a player update before you can add a player.

Any attempt to add a player will probably require a purchase of new Sonos equipment. Yeah, can’t see that happening anytime soon!!! ;-) by me or anyone else. My Facebook post about the new app and the apparent distain that Sonos’ CEO has for its users, has already dissuaded a friend from his purchase of a Sonos system. He had Sonos as one of a couple of possibles, for his new system. NOT ANYMORE after reading my review.

‘How to loose customers and alienate users’ by Sonos, has the same ring to it as ‘How to win friends and influence people’

June 3, 2024

Player / Controller Versions - Why Update?

 

DON’T !!!!

 

 

Lyricist III
June 3, 2024

I wanted to avoid the update on my other devices but Sonos doesn’t let you open the app unless you update.  I hate this new version!!!!!

June 3, 2024

From my (and it seems most others, sorry ALL others. Please feel free to correct me if you like the new App ;-)  ) experience, updating this app is like the temptation to break the glass on the fire alarm or push the big red button on the escalator. You know the one, it says ‘to stop in an emergency press HERE’. You want to do it to just to see what happens. That little voice that you ignore, because you know it’s not a good idea. The ‘New update available’ is now like that little voice.  BEST IGNORED. We have done it so you don’t have to!! The new update has the same effect - it stops operation as you would like it or makes a big screeching sound like the fire alarm. (your scream when you see what it has done to your system)

Lyricist III
June 3, 2024

I started with Sonos because it was easy and user friendly, not now. This is all way too technical and problematic. What happened to ease of use and customer service?

June 3, 2024

I wanted to avoid the update on my other devices but Sonos doesn’t let you open the app unless you update.  I hate this new version!!!!!

Yeah I found that too on iOS. If you have updated the app on one device with your apple id, from then on your id will only be able to use the new app not the old one, on any device. Other apple ids can continue using the old app but any devices using your id won’t work with the old app.