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Mike H
Retired Sonos Staff
May 21, 2024

Player / Controller Versions - Why Update?

Player / Controller Versions - Why Update?

We have seen a few posts with people talking about firmware versions and being at different places within the last few updates. While this isn’t new to the recent Sonos app update, there are more and more conversations about it and I thought I’d try to help give some context to what we’re seeing.

One thing that may not be widely known is that by turning off Auto-Updates in the app store, it only addresses the updating of your controller app and not necessarily the firmware of the players. This means that while you may be blocking your controller from updating, the speakers may still update their firmware if someone else updates the system from their controller. Different people end up in different parts of the updating pipeline and while all the problems look different, they can usually be traced to this mismatch. You can check your speaker firmware by going to: Settings (Gear in top-right) > Manage > About My System

 

Here are a few compatibility scenarios that you may find yourself in: 

 

Old Player Firmware (78.1-52020)  + Old Sonos S2 App

  • In-app notification that an update is available.

  • Alarm Settings are available.

  • Any attempt to add a player to the system will require an app update, which will be followed by a player update before you can add a player.

 

Old Player Firmware (78.1-52020) + New Sonos App (Pre-Alarms Fix)

  • No indication about an app update being available.

  • Alarm Settings remain disabled.

  • Any attempt to add a player to the system will require an app update, which will be followed by a player update before you can add a player.

 

Old Player Firmware (78.1-52020) + New Sonos App (Alarms Fix)

  • No indication in the app about a system update being available unless you seek it out in Settings > Manage > System Updates > Check for Updates

  • Alarm Settings remain disabled.

  • Any attempt to add a player to the system will require a player update 

 

New Player Firmware (79.0-52294) + Old Sonos S2 App

  • In-app notification that an update is available.

  • Cross-version compatibility mode will block out access to all of Settings and Setup.

  • Will be encouraged within the app to go to the app store to update their app.

 

New Player Firmware (79.0-52294) + New Sonos App (Pre-Alarms Fix)

  • No indication in the app about an update being available.

  • Alarm Settings remain disabled.

  • Any attempt to add a player to the system will require an app update, which will be followed by a player update before you can add a player.

 

New Player Firmware (79.0-52294) + New Sonos App (Alarms Fix) 

  • Everything is up to date.

    • Improved playback settings including “Play next,” “add to end of queue,” and on iOS, the mute button

    • Improved product setup, Bluetooth discovery and WiFi settings

    • Added sleep timer settings

    • Improved Trueplay setup on iOS

    • Introduced distance settings for home theater surrounds

    • Improved navigation for users who are blind or visually-impaired 

    • Added VoiceOver support for toast messages on iOS

 

Hope this provides a little bit of context into what you might be experiencing and why you might be seeing it. Yes, the official guidance is to keep your devices updated - but more importantly we wanted to explicitly show what it looks like depending on the current state of your system. Hope you find this useful!

Note: This does not mean that updating alone will solve every system problem. We are very much aware of some issues around product set-up - however the very first thing before getting support would be to ensure your app and devices are completely updated.

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62 replies

Prominent Collaborator I
May 24, 2024

Can anyone from Sonos give us a sense of how much overtime their software developers are now making correcting this new app’s misery? The loss of my own music library in my NAS is horrible. the workaround through Plex only works half the time before it hangs up again

 

I doubt you have lost your library.  You just need an app that can see it like the older app.  If you are stuck where you cannot rollback to the old app, you have iOS vs Android, then you can use the SonoPhone or SonoPad app to get to all your content.  Or use the PC / Mac desktop app.

Lyricist I
May 24, 2024

i dont know how they can update the app, and totally screw things up, looks like a 10 year old programmed it,  it`s attrocious, and very annoying,  sonos has gone backwards in my opinion,  useless

Lyricist II
May 24, 2024

Oh yeah? And what’s the context for removing access to one’s Music Library?

jgatie
May 24, 2024

Oh yeah? And what’s the context for removing access to one’s Music Library?

 

Sonos no longer supports SMB v1 shares, so you need to change your share protocol to SMB v2 or v3.  Why are they not supporting SMB v1 anymore?  Blame these threads by overly paranoid doom and gloom security freaks:

 

 

Lyricist II
May 24, 2024

^^^

Not sure what any of that means. But is there a link on how to make that change?

jgatie
May 24, 2024

^^^

Not sure what any of that means. But is there a link on how to make that change?

 

Depend on what device you are sharing from. A Windows PC is easy to change.  An NAS is too.  I’m not sure how to change a Mac (and it seems to be troublesome for others here). 

Lyricist II
May 24, 2024

^^^

Not sure what any of that means. But is there a link on how to make that change?

 

Depend on what device you are sharing from. A Windows PC is easy to change.  An NAS is too.  I’m not sure how to change a Mac (and it seems to be troublesome for others here). 

Sharing from Windows PC

Trending Lyricist I
May 25, 2024

New Player Firmware (79.0-52294) + New Sonos App (Alarms Fix) 

  • Everything is up to date.

  • Alarm Settings are available
     

where Everything is up to date   Stand for  nothing works

Contributor II
May 26, 2024

Disable firmware updates if you rolled back to 16.1 because of the abomination that is the new app. They want you to keep it enabled so they can push an update to block you from using the old version of the app,just like they did when S2 launched.