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Sonos Era 300 wall mount positioning

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March 25, 2023
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Hello everyone, pre ordered a pair of Era 300 with wall mounts, I want to use them as rear speakers with Arc and Sub. Could you please help me? I’m not a native English speaker so please, understand me if I write something incorrect :)

Most of the people have te sofa against the wall, in my case I can leave 50cm to 1m space from wall to the sofa, but I’m so scared to do something wrong. My room is quite big, my sofa height is 1.10m with headrest included. I was thinking to put the speakers above the armrests of the couch (wall mounts), a little over the ear level (this because of the headrest, I think it will “block” the sound somehow) so from 1.10m up, would that be a good thing to do? Over the speakers I’ve got a lot of space, it’s not a problem leaving 60cm above the speakers, same thing with the sides, I can leave 20cm at the sides of the speakers without problem. Then it comes the distance from wall to the couch, I can leave up to 1 meter of space. What would you do if you were me? Please guys, help me decide :)

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Best answer by Corry P

Hi @JackThr1ll3r

Welcome to the Sonos Community!

My room is quite big, my sofa height is 1.10m with headrest included. I was thinking to put the speakers above the armrests of the couch (wall mounts), a little over the ear level (this because of the headrest, I think it will “block” the sound somehow) so from 1.10m up, would that be a good thing to do?

I don’t see why not - sounds good to me (pun intended).

If you can somehow test things before drilling holes in the wall, I would recommend it. Compare locations and decide based on what sounds best to you.

Then it comes the distance from wall to the couch, I can leave up to 1 meter of space. What would you do if you were me?

I don’t think you’d need a full metre. Again, I recommend trying things out and sticking with what sounds best to your ears (those are the ones that count). The following picture from our product page certainly doesn’t show a metre’s separation:

Remember not to angle the 300s towards the listening position - they should both face the wall the TV is against (as shown) as they are capable of channelling sound in the correct direction themselves.

I hope this helps, and I hope you enjoy your new speakers!

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thecodingart

Enthusiast I

Hi @thecodingart

I’m glad to hear there’s been an improvement for you! Thanks for sharing.

Removing and adding surround speakers has always been a valid troubleshooting step to try when the surround speakers aren’t behaving as expected, but we are of course investigating such reports regarding Eras.

Regarding one of the posts above:

I have my Era 300's inverted and tuned them with trueplay and they sound great. I've checked audio to ensure left and right sounds were accurate and it seems correct.

I also called Sonos customer support and they said they ran diagnostic and could see the trueplay set up ensuring the left is left (even inverted) and right is right.

The above seems to imply that True Play has the potential to accidentally swap the left and right firing speakers. A software toggle or some visual indicating the configured layout in the app would be super helpful in identifying these situations and potentially course correcting them, but I would like to know what criteria is used to determine which sides fire rears/surrounds on the Era 300s?

Corry P

Sonos Staff

Hi @thecodingart

I think you’ve misunderstood - though it’s also just as possible that I have misunderstood you. I think one or both of the following points will give you an answer, either way.

It is not a case of the speakers swapping being a left speaker or a right speaker, but that when a speaker is flipped upside-down, the right of the speaker becomes the left of the speaker and vice versa. The speaker being aware of this is down to it’s accelerometers (not TruePlay), so when these tell it that it has been flipped, the software must react and flip it’s concept of which side of that one speaker is which, not which speaker it is in the Home Theatre configuration. It took me a wee while to type this paragraph as clearly and unambiguously as I could, so I can easily see why it was not done in the quoted text, or perhaps not clearly explained to the author during a support phone call.

This whole process is independent of TruePlay, but when TruePlay is performed on a flipped speaker, TruePlay has to be aware of the orientation to compute the changes to be made, and to apply them properly. TruePlay cannot swap the speakers from being left to being right, or vice versa.

I hope this helps.

Just to be clear, and in case anyone reading this missed it when I said it earlier, inverted mounting of Era 300s is not yet supported by the software.

"Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen." - Albert Einstein

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thecodingart

Enthusiast I

Hi @thecodingart

I think you’ve misunderstood - though it’s also just as possible that I have misunderstood you. I think one or both of the following points will give you an answer, either way.

It is not a case of the speakers swapping being a left speaker or a right speaker, but that when a speaker is flipped upside-down, the right of the speaker becomes the left of the speaker and vice versa. The speaker being aware of this is down to it’s accelerometers (not TruePlay), so when these tell it that it has been flipped, the software must react and flip it’s concept of which side of that one speaker is which, not which speaker it is in the Home Theatre configuration. It took me a wee while to type this paragraph as clearly and unambiguously as I could, so I can easily see why it was not done in the quoted text, or perhaps not clearly explained to the author during a support phone call.

This whole process is independent of TruePlay, but when TruePlay is performed on a flipped speaker, TruePlay has to be aware of the orientation to compute the changes to be made, and to apply them properly. TruePlay cannot swap the speakers from being left to being right, or vice versa.

I hope this helps.

Just to be clear, and in case anyone reading this missed it when I said it earlier, inverted mounting of Era 300s is not yet supported by the software.

I believe I was misunderstood earlier, but I do believe you answered my question. There are others in Reddit and various other communication channels reporting that the inner/outer speakers were swapped without the Era 300s being inverted, or even performing True Play. From your comments, it sounds like the build in accelerometers are the hardware component that can trigger a swap like that. Hypothetically, if there was a bug or defect in the unit, it would likely be around the accelerometer functionality hardware/software wise or a bug in the initial pairing as surrounds.

I do believe there should be a visual showing if this “switch” is active or not within the application for debugging and awareness purposes. Especially to point out if an issue is occurring unintentionally.

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flybyme

Enthusiast II

Hello to all,

any suggestion on how far from the listener should be the ERa300 positioned having them hanged on the wall just behind the couch?

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Chuck XM

Lyricist III

Hello everyone, pre ordered a pair of Era 300 with wall mounts, I want to use them as rear speakers with Arc and Sub. Could you please help me? I’m not a native English speaker so please, understand me if I write something incorrect :)

Most of the people have te sofa against the wall, in my case I can leave 50cm to 1m space from wall to the sofa, but I’m so scared to do something wrong. My room is quite big, my sofa height is 1.10m with headrest included. I was thinking to put the speakers above the armrests of the couch (wall mounts), a little over the ear level (this because of the headrest, I think it will “block” the sound somehow) so from 1.10m up, would that be a good thing to do? Over the speakers I’ve got a lot of space, it’s not a problem leaving 60cm above the speakers, same thing with the sides, I can leave 20cm at the sides of the speakers without problem. Then it comes the distance from wall to the couch, I can leave up to 1 meter of space. What would you do if you were me? Please guys, help me decide :)

Hello, sorry for my English, I'm French. Just to warn you that I received the 2x Era 300 when they came out, and I mounted them on the ceiling with the inverted brackets, and it's just too good. The trueplay setting is done, and after several tests of movies in dolby atmos and also with atmos testers I can tell you that it plays super well. I'm delighted. Personally, I would strongly recommend this inverted positioning because the vertical sounds descend directly to the ears and are not attenuated or broken by reflection on the ceiling.

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Benoah

Lyricist II

Hello everyone, pre ordered a pair of Era 300 with wall mounts, I want to use them as rear speakers with Arc and Sub. Could you please help me? I’m not a native English speaker so please, understand me if I write something incorrect :)

Most of the people have te sofa against the wall, in my case I can leave 50cm to 1m space from wall to the sofa, but I’m so scared to do something wrong. My room is quite big, my sofa height is 1.10m with headrest included. I was thinking to put the speakers above the armrests of the couch (wall mounts), a little over the ear level (this because of the headrest, I think it will “block” the sound somehow) so from 1.10m up, would that be a good thing to do? Over the speakers I’ve got a lot of space, it’s not a problem leaving 60cm above the speakers, same thing with the sides, I can leave 20cm at the sides of the speakers without problem. Then it comes the distance from wall to the couch, I can leave up to 1 meter of space. What would you do if you were me? Please guys, help me decide :)

Hello, sorry for my English, I'm French. Just to warn you that I received the 2x Era 300 when they came out, and I mounted them on the ceiling with the inverted brackets, and it's just too good. The trueplay setting is done, and after several tests of movies in dolby atmos and also with atmos testers I can tell you that it plays super well. I'm delighted. Personally, I would strongly recommend this inverted positioning because the vertical sounds descend directly to the ears and are not attenuated or broken by reflection on the ceiling.

Vous avec une photo de votre installation en place ? Je serai intéressé d’installer une paire en inversé sous plafond.

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Chuck XM

Lyricist III

Hello everyone, pre ordered a pair of Era 300 with wall mounts, I want to use them as rear speakers with Arc and Sub. Could you please help me? I’m not a native English speaker so please, understand me if I write something incorrect :)

Most of the people have te sofa against the wall, in my case I can leave 50cm to 1m space from wall to the sofa, but I’m so scared to do something wrong. My room is quite big, my sofa height is 1.10m with headrest included. I was thinking to put the speakers above the armrests of the couch (wall mounts), a little over the ear level (this because of the headrest, I think it will “block” the sound somehow) so from 1.10m up, would that be a good thing to do? Over the speakers I’ve got a lot of space, it’s not a problem leaving 60cm above the speakers, same thing with the sides, I can leave 20cm at the sides of the speakers without problem. Then it comes the distance from wall to the couch, I can leave up to 1 meter of space. What would you do if you were me? Please guys, help me decide :)

Hello, sorry for my English, I'm French. Just to warn you that I received the 2x Era 300 when they came out, and I mounted them on the ceiling with the inverted brackets, and it's just too good. The trueplay setting is done, and after several tests of movies in dolby atmos and also with atmos testers I can tell you that it plays super well. I'm delighted. Personally, I would strongly recommend this inverted positioning because the vertical sounds descend directly to the ears and are not attenuated or broken by reflection on the ceiling.

Vous avec une photo de votre installation en place ? Je serai intéressé d’installer une paire en inversé sous plafond.

Lyricist III

Lyricist II

Merci beaucoup cela me rassure sur ma futur installation. Pouvez-vous me faire un retour d’expérience à l’occasion ? Merci beaucoup 😉

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Chuck XM

Lyricist III

Merci beaucoup cela me rassure sur ma futur installation. Pouvez-vous me faire un retour d’expérience à l’occasion ? Merci beaucoup 😉

j’ai déjà fait mon retour dans le précédent message. Ce système monte à l’envers est vraiment très très bon.

les effets sont précis et puissants en atmos,

Testé sur plusieurs films comme MAD MAX , Ready player One, le dernier Batman, Dune et free guy.

faudrait juste que je test aussi sur Bohemian Rhapsody pour essayer un film musical atmos.

je pense que cela peut être super.

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