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Avid Contributor II
Mar 25, 2023 6:30 PM UTC
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Firestick 4K and Sonos Arc both require an eArc HDMI port, only have 1

Hello,

My Arc will be delivered tomorrow. I have a question about connectivity in conjunction with the 4k Firestick. 

In order for the 4k feature to work the Amazon Firestick must be connected to an Arc/eArc HDMI port. I’ve confirmed this is the case, no 4k on any of the other 4 HDMI ports on my TV (Vizio M75-C1) using the 4k Firestick. My TV has only 1 arc/earc HDMI port.  

The SONOS Arc also requires the arc/eArc HDMI port for full functionality. What do I lose if I use the optical-out option? Are there any other connection options. 

 

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Airgetlam
AirgetlamAnswer
Mar 25, 2023 8:21 PM UTC

Using optical, you would lose any CEC functionality, and be restricted to Dolby Digital 5.1 as the maximum codec. So no Atmos. 

Bruce

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Airgetlam
AirgetlamAnswer
Mar 25, 2023 8:21 PM UTC

Using optical, you would lose any CEC functionality, and be restricted to Dolby Digital 5.1 as the maximum codec. So no Atmos. 

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Bruce
Airgetlam
Mar 25, 2023 8:26 PM UTC

For what it’s worth (likely nothing whatsoever), I’m fully disenchanted with my two Vizio TVs, both aren’t more than 3 years old, but neither will pass Dolby Digital plus from an HDMI input. They will, however, send Dolby Digital plus from their ‘Smart’ apps. When these TVs get replaced sometime soon, I’ll likely choose another manufacturer. 
 

Edit:Yes, I’m annoyed and whining. 

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Bruce
Avid Contributor II
Mar 25, 2023 10:22 PM UTC

Ok, thanks. Vizio is going away, probably a 77” LG OLED next. Just beginning a renew of the entertainment space. 

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106rallye
Mar 25, 2023 11:07 PM UTC

Not quite sure you are right about eARC and 4k being on the same port, the  reason you state for not being able to connect the Firestick correctly. Reading the manual (https://cdn.vizio.com/documents/m75c1/qsg-m75c1.pdf) there’s no mention of eARC, but all HDMI ports seem to be 4k capable (either 30 or 60 fps).

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buzz
Grand Maestro
Mar 25, 2023 11:19 PM UTC

Normally, audio is passed from an input device, such as a cable box, disc player, media player, or such to the TV over an HDMI connection. The TV’s speakers are terrible. Better sound can be achieved if the input devices are connected to an A/V receiver or soundbar and only video needs be sent to the TV. Now that we have TV “Apps”, we need to be able to pass audio from the TV App back to the A/V receiver.  HDMI-ARC (Audio Return Channel) and HDMI-eARC ports are designed to allow a TV to return audio to an A/V receiver or a device like the SONOS ARC. Audio travels back to the A/V receiver on a different set of pins in the HDMI cable and the A/V receiver must be designed to accept this alternate audio feed.

A TV only needs a single HDMI-ARC or HDMI-eARC port. If this port is also the only TV port that can accept 4K input there is a dilemma -- one must give up 4K or audio return. In my opinion this is a silly design, but these sets are out there. Usually these are older TV’s, built when HDMI-ARC and 4K chips  for TV’s were much more expensive.

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Avid Contributor II
Mar 26, 2023 12:19 AM UTC

Regardless the manual, 4k only works on the arc/earc port. For the Firestick 4k. 
 

And, received the Sonos Arc early, it doesn’t work on the arc/earc port. No sound. Low end TV, low end results. 
 

So, Firestick goes back to earc HDMI, Sonos Arc goes to optical, no Atmos. Timetable for the TV upgrade has been moved up. 

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Stanley_4
Grand Maestro
Mar 26, 2023 5:32 AM UTC

Good plan, my Firestick 4K is happy on my Sony’s first HDMI port with my Arc on the e-ARC.

I did have to make choices as I have more high definition signals than the Sony can accept so while the Firestick is being fully used my DVD player is on a slower frame-rate HDMI port.

I’ll pay more attention to the full specs of the HDMI ports on my next TV purchase!

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Airgetlam
Mar 26, 2023 6:50 PM UTC

While I applaud the sentiment, for me it was an issue that at the time of taking a decision, I was unaware that these issues might be important, in the future. To my chagrin. 

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Bruce
Mar 26, 2023 8:40 PM UTC

This is the dilemma. Despite tech companies talking about future proofing their equipment, generally (with the honourable exception of Sonos) this is not possible. No-one can foretell the tech innovations of 5 years hence, and as Airgetlam says, you make your decisions based on your needs at the time. I remember buying  some tech some time ago, with a feature I thought might be useful in the future (which obviously  added to the cost), which I never used. 

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Richard
Ken_Griffiths
Mar 26, 2023 10:29 PM UTC

Not quite sure you are right about eARC and 4k being on the same port, the  reason you state for not being able to connect the Firestick correctly. Reading the manual (https://cdn.vizio.com/documents/m75c1/qsg-m75c1.pdf) there’s no mention of eARC, but all HDMI ports seem to be 4k capable (either 30 or 60 fps).

I agree with @106rallye  - why would a FireStick 4K require its own ‘audio return channel’ or ‘enhanced audio return channel’? - that does not make any sense.

I have a Fire TV 4K and my TV (LG C9 OLED) - like every other TV I’ve seen - has one ARC/eARC port only and that’s used by the Sonos Arc (Receiver of the returned-audio) from the playing TV source - the FireTV 4K works just fine connected to the straightforward HDMI-3 port.. I get full functionality from the Amazon product. (Display settings from my Fire TV 4K attached)

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