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**Big WOW Factor** The Gold Standard with a Few Handcuffs

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TheWhiteWater
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  • February 19, 2026

It seems to me, ​@TheWhiteWater, that you keep altering your views every time anyone questions or challenges you. 
 

Consequently, I shall not be contributing further to this debate. I hope you continue to enjoy your system, but would strongly recommend that you heed your own comments and your perceived concerns regarding the Sonos infrastructure and its limitations before adding further to your own system. 

@nik9669a 
I am sorry to see you go, though I believe you may have misinterpreted my position. My views on the hardware have remained consistent: the Arc Ultra and Era 300s offer crisp, world class sound that I enjoy immensely. My "hand is raised" only for consumer freedom. I am standing firm on the quality of the speakers while simultaneously critiquing the software infrastructure. I don't see those as conflicting views, one can love a car's engine while hating the fact that the manufacturer locks the dashboard behind a subscription. I heed my own concerns every day, which is why I am vocal about them here.


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“I appreciate the debate, though I must disagree with the analogies being used. To suggest that complaining about these restrictions is like complaining to Ford about the price of petrol is inaccurate. If I buy a Ford, I am free to buy my fuel from any station I choose. Sonos, however, has built a system where they effectively decide which "petrol stations" are allowed to serve their cars.”

Again, you are wrong about how Sonos works. The “petrol stations” decide if they want to connect to Sonos. Sonos (Sonos Music API) is open to any music service If the music service will not do this Sonos is Airplay capable. So you have a choice.

@106rallye 

the petrol station analogy still holds because the car owner should have the ultimate choice of how they "refuel." If I have a compatible audio codec on my device, the decision of where that content comes from should belong to me, not the hardware manufacturer or their third party alliances.


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Is it Google Cast that you want?

 

@melvimbe, I agree that Sonos does not own the phone’s OS. However, they do choose which protocols to support. By not supporting open casting standards that other manufacturers use, they are making a conscious choice to maintain a closed ecosystem. It is a choice of control over consumer freedom. I believe that once we buy a system, we should truly own it, and the manufacturer should not maintain a grip on what sources we are allowed to listen to.

 

Can you list the “open casting standards” that Sonos doesn’t support? 

Exactly this.  An open standard doesn’t require to pay a license fee to use. While there are lots of standards out there that are common on most products, they are not free.  Dolby and DTS are not free.  Bluetooth is not free. Airplay and Google Casting are not free.  You can certainly want these features on Sonos and believe that it’s worth it for Sonos to pay for them because competitors do, but that’s not the same as claiming they are open standards.

That said though, I do somewhat agree that Sonos is not a fully open system, and that’s intentional.   They do not freely license out (except where legally forced to) their communication protocol so that you can use non Sonos speakers in your Sonos system.  They did not originally support bluetooth either.   I don’t think that’s necessarily a bad thing since it allowed Sonos to better control the user experience (for better or worse) and blocked big tech and other customers from stealing their sales.  It’s obviously not ideal for every consumer as some consumers don’t care about ease  of use, they just want as many features as possible.  But you can’t look at Apple and then say that a closed system is a bad business strategy, or that customers just won’t like your products if your garden is walled.

@melvimbe,

When I speak of open standards, I am referring to the universal ability to "cast" or "send" audio without proprietary gatekeeping. While Google Cast or AirPlay may involve licensing, they represent a level of interoperability that consumers (like me) expect in 2026. Sonos makes a conscious choice to maintain a "walled garden" to control the user experience. While that may be a "good business strategy" for them, it is not necessarily a good outcome for the consumer who wants to use their high end hardware with the same flexibility as a basic Bluetooth receiver. We shouldn't have to choose between "ease of use" and "basic freedom."


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@TheWhiteWater 

OK…I’ll eat my words…I’m back to comment again 😂

You used Nvidia as an example to allow you to customize your experience. While true Nvidia does allow users to practically do whatever they want with customization. However, untethered ownership comes at a price as long as you are willing to accept responsibility for changes made that may cause functionally issues. Granted that after the manufacturer’s warranty expires it’s probably a moot point depending upon what country you reside in.

To that point if you read Nvidia’s limited warranty (in the link) one could customize their purchase to a point where it becomes a “paper weight”.

Granted it could be viewed as an apples to oranges comparison as it relates to Sonos. However, IMO Sonos will by all probability never allow that level of customization as it’s in a very competitive market. Giving others access to code at that level could sound the “death knell”  for Sonos as a company.

Sonos however does allow Dev’s to create apps that will interface with its products at an unsupported level.

I realize that shifting your philosophical views about corporations isn’t going to change. I too feel that corporate greed is rampant in the world we live in. For that matter I wish I didn’t have to support Amazon; however at times I have to yield to the scale of economy to make my dollars go further.

That said I don’t lump Sonos in the same category as it relates to greed with other corporations. Sonos has a niche product and the cost of ownership will remain relatively high until more companies start producing a similar product that meets and/or exceeds Sonos; thus reducing it to a commodity.

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/shield/warranty/

@AjTrek1

I appreciate your honesty regarding the scale of economy. We often yield to these giants because they make life convenient, but that convenience is exactly how our freedom is slowly eroded. I use my Nvidia Shield Pro specifically because it allows me to exercise that freedom and customise my experience. Yes, that comes with the responsibility of not turning it into a "paper weight," but I would rather have the right to make a mistake than be forbidden from trying.
 

The fact that Sonos remains a "niche" product with a high cost of ownership is precisely why the standard for user freedom should be higher. If I am paying a premium, I should be buying a tool, not a service that Sonos can alter or restrict at their whim. I'll be spending my time off experimenting with my setup and perhaps looking for that Sub 4 to see if it can finally provide the "untethered" experience I am looking for.