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Trending Lyricist I
November 3, 2023
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Arc + AppleTV 4k (new gen) + TCL Roku TV Trouble with ATMOS

Very frustrated - have the Arc, new sub and new Era 300 surrounds.

Going from the Arc to the TCL into its eARC hdmi and the appleTV 4K into another HDMI port on the TCL.

On the TV i have the following settings:

Audio > Audio Output > ARC (Sonos Arc)

Audio > preferred streaming format > Auto

Audio > Digital output format > passthrough 

 

(I see no other audio options digging around the menu; I’ve read in other forums that the output needs to be “bitstream”; however i either can’t find or don’t have that option. 

On the appletv 4k
Audio Output > TV Speakers

Audio Format (it reads “auto” on the menu bar) > Change format “Off” / If I turn it “on” I can set it to “Dolby Digital 5.1” - there is no Atmos Option.

Audio Mode: Auto (only other option is 16 bit)

When I play Atmos music through Apple Music (under its Spatial Audio, which claims to support Atmos) via this set up i get 5.1 listed on the Sonos app.

 

Similarly, when i play movies - either through the Apple app on Apple TV or the Netflix app via the Apple TV - even when they are advertised as being Atmos - the Sonos display shows 5.1.

 

—the issue is with the appletv —

With the same exact set up as per above, if - rather than playing the same movie thru the Netflix app on the appletv - i play it through the Netflix app on the Roku tv - i get the Atmos signal showing on my Sonos app.

 

However

If i stream music from the Apple Music app on the Roku tv (as opposed to the Apple Music app on the Apple TV) i get “stereo PCM” on the Sonos display. 

It’s absolutely maddening - the Apple TV is meant to enhance the UX and a/v as compared to something like roku’s UX (ie I’d rather not ditch the appletv)

 

one last aside

If i switch my audio output on the Apple TV from the tv (which is routed to the arc via the eARC) to my Sonos set up via: AppleTv Settings >Audio >Audio output > temporary audio output - the sound is notably better, but i can’t discern what the actual format is bc on the Sonos app it just shows as “airplay.”

In any case, would love ANY help.

thank you,

George 

 

 

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Lead Maestro
November 3, 2023

@George650 Based on my research, your TV model isn’t equipped with HDMI eARC. It only has HDMI ARC. The Apple TV 4K requires eARC to play Dolby Atmos audio on most TV models.

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AjTrek1
November 3, 2023

Hi

Here are settings for my AppleTV 4K.

 

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Lead Maestro
November 3, 2023

What specific model TV do you have?

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George650Author
Trending Lyricist I
November 3, 2023

@AjTrek1 - thank you very much for the photos. I have the same settings as you, but: under audio format it doesn't say ‘atmos available’ after audio. 

 

would seem to be the culprit. Any idea on how to access that?

 

Thank you again. 

 

George 

George650Author
Trending Lyricist I
November 3, 2023

@GuitarSuperstar thanks for your help. Here are the details of the TV:

 

Thank you 

Lead Maestro
November 3, 2023

@George650 Based on my research, your TV model isn’t equipped with HDMI eARC. It only has HDMI ARC. The Apple TV 4K requires eARC to play Dolby Atmos audio on most TV models.

"Receive with simplicity everything that happens to you." - Rashi
George650Author
Trending Lyricist I
November 3, 2023

@GuitarSuperstar that would explain it. A new TV is in my future. 

 

Do you know if the newer model Samsung The Frame TVs have the eARC? 

 

I'll obviously do my own research, but just curious if you know off hand. 

 

Thank you very much. 

 

George 

AjTrek1
November 3, 2023

@AjTrek1 - thank you very much for the photos. I have the same settings as you, but: under audio format it doesn't say ‘atmos available’ after audio. 

 

would seem to be the culprit. Any idea on how to access that?

 

Thank you again. 

 

George 

That setting had nothing to do with your TV as far as availability. You may want to factory reset your AppleTV 4K (assuming it is the latest offering) and download the latest version of Apple TVOS.

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George650Author
Trending Lyricist I
November 3, 2023

@AjTrek1 worth a shot. Trying now. 

George650Author
Trending Lyricist I
November 4, 2023

@AjTrek1 full reset. Nada. 

Lead Maestro
November 4, 2023

@GuitarSuperstar that would explain it. A new TV is in my future. 

 

Do you know if the newer model Samsung The Frame TVs have the eARC? 

 

I'll obviously do my own research, but just curious if you know off hand. 

 

Thank you very much. 

 

George 

The Samsung Frame is equipped with eARC.

If you want to keep your TV, you might consider adding an eARC adapter like the HDFury Arcana:

https://hdfury.com/product/4k-arcana-18gbps/

"Receive with simplicity everything that happens to you." - Rashi