Sonos moves as seround speakers

Thank you guys for your time and response. 

I never watch TV and listen to the music at the same time. WIFI covers enough of my garden so there is no issues. 

Strange that play5 can work as seround. Those are clearly not made for that but still give the option, I like that. 

Do you mean that once Ones or any other speakers are in the seround mode there is no easy way to switch them to stereo mode by streaming music just to 2 Ones? E.g. Through Spotify? 

Isn't Move more powerful than One? 

At the end of a day this is just the matter of how much I need to spend. But ending with 2x One SL, Bar, Sub, 2x Move and 2x Play5 soundike a lot. 

Do you have any other option if I want to be able to 

1. Have a great seround for movies

2. Listen to music with no compromise. 

3. Have it outside in stereo without extension leds. 

One more time I would like to than you for your  input. 

Not really what I was getting at.  In this hypothetical scenario, your two Moves and playbar are still part of the same room, playing the same audio at the same volume.  So when you put a move in the garden on WiFi, you’d be getting one channel of stereo, left or right, while the other speakers are playing the same audio...also a little off since the volume is out of balance between left and right.

It is overkill yet, but it does not cause the other problems that have been mentioned.

Correct.  In a 5.1 setup, you have the option to play music sources through the front speakers only, where the surrounds are silent, or ‘full stereo, where the surround speakers play stereo along with front speakers.  If you want to surrounds to play separately, they must be removed and setup as there on room, not something you want to do on a regular basis.

Power is just one feature/characteristic of the speakers that make it good for the particular task.  A hammer is more powerful than screwdriver, but that doesn’t mean it’s always the right tool for the job.

Not sure what rooms you plan on using Sonos with.  I’ve heard just the garden and TV room.  Do you think you need 2 Moves for the Garden?  Are you going to want to move both of them out there every time?  Or are you thinking that whatever other room you use the Moves in will need to be in stereo?

For the TV room, go with the playbar  and sub and add the 2  SLs if budget allows.  I would actually wait on making these purchases right now as Sonos tends to release a new product late spring/early summer, many suspect they are due for a new playbar...or something else that might fit your needs a little better.

I can’t comment on the play:5s since I’m not sure what your intended use 

These a little vague, but I’ll try.

1 - As mentioned, surround speakers is light duty.  You might be happy with the Sonos ikea bookshelf speakers for surround, and they are much cheaper than even the Sonos SL.

2 - Not sure what a compromise is.

3- Many people get a Sonos amp with wired outdoor speakers, but that is likely not cheaper than a pair of Moves and not necessarily better sound.

Just a reminder of how the Sonos SL’s would work if setup as surround speakers in a 5.1 (Beam, Sub, 2 SL’s).

In settings you set them as FULL Mode.

What that does is when you are watching TV the SL’s will act as surrounds.

When you are playing Music online the SL’s will switch from being surrounds and output full stereo.   So when listening to music via controller the SL’s will play as if they were a stereo pair not in the 5.1 system (althought he Beam and sub will play along with them as a group).   This makes for much better full stereo sound then the SL’s staying as surrounds (which would be more of a Doby Prologic effect and not good for listening to music).

Thanks

Is that mean that 2x play 5, a bit waist as a seround speakers, can be use fully in stereo mode while listening to the music even if chained to 5.1 for watching movies? 

Yes and no.  You will have stereo from the front and stereo from the rear.

Yes if you have 2xPlay:5 as rears - pretty much waste when doing surround but when listening to music they will be in full stereo (playing in conjuction with the Beam and Sub).   Actually would sound very good.

But with the sub providing good low end the only advantage vs. Some Sonos SL’s is going to be power to fill a big room.

Would It be possible to set up the 2 moves as stereo pair, and later group it with a Beam? Is It so diferent from a 5.1??

You can pair a set of moves

As far as grouping with Beam.   If your listening to music on Sonos then grouping with beam and the moves playing in stereo would be exactly the same as if paired.

If watching TV on the Beam and grouping in the moves - the sound on the moves will replicate the 2.0 channels of the beam and will be slightly delayed (causing a little stadium effect).   Would not be good for anything more than watching sporting events (as that stadium effect probably would sound like the surrounds anyhow).

Guess I was duped by the allure of Black Friday pricing. I’ve got two moves now that I intended to use as rear surrounds in the winter and take them outside in the summer. Well, now they’re storage in the winter so that I can use them in the summer. What a waste of money. 

Just to confirm: currently, there’s no way to have truly wireless rear speakers in a 5.1 setup with Sonos, is that correct? The rear speakers will be located somewhere in the middle of the room, and I cannot have power cords lying around. I can find suitable 5.1 setups from other companies, where the rear speakers can be charged to avoid power cords, but I really hoped I could get something from Sonos :-(