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Quick question about previous Djing post

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Hi Folks,

There have been plenty of questions regarding DJing with Sonos regarding the 70ms latency. Someone once posted this:

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”1) If you can get the output of your DJ thingy into the Playbar via it's optical input then the audio would NOT be delayed. If you had 2 Play units bonded as surrounds then they would also play audio not delayed (but the signal would NOT be Dolby Digital 5.1 so they would barely get used.
2) Any other way of getting audio into Sonos - via line in on Connect, Connect:amp or Play 5 would be subject to an audio delay
3) If you GROUPED other Plays to a Playbar and played your DJing via the Playbar the audio played through the GROUPED speakers would be delayed by 70ms.”

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Is the statement in (1) true and if so can one also plug directly into the optical in of a Beam to achieve the same.

Many thanks

John

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Ryan SAnswer

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Hi John! Statement 1 is very true. All of the Home Theater Sonos speakers are designed to have minimal latency on the TV audio input. That would be the Beam, Playbar, Playbase, and Amp (note that the Amp has an analog input too, which will have a 75 ms delay since it’s not a TV input). Technically there is a slight delay, but it’s not noticeable when watching TV, trying to sync the video and audio together, so I imagine it’d be similarly unnoticed with DJ applications.

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Ryan SAnswer

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Hi John! Statement 1 is very true. All of the Home Theater Sonos speakers are designed to have minimal latency on the TV audio input. That would be the Beam, Playbar, Playbase, and Amp (note that the Amp has an analog input too, which will have a 75 ms delay since it’s not a TV input). Technically there is a slight delay, but it’s not noticeable when watching TV, trying to sync the video and audio together, so I imagine it’d be similarly unnoticed with DJ applications.

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J

Jonpaul31Author

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Sweet. Cheers mate. I’ll give it a go. Any advice concerning how to go about this? Just plug in the optical with TV off and adjust volume accordingly?

Ryan S

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Yep, that’s about it. You may need to set up the Beam first if you haven’t yet, that way it’s a bit easier when you go to use it.

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Airgetlam

And make sure the signal being sent through the optical is either stereo, or Dolby Digital, and not anything else.

Bruce

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Jonpaul31Author

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Excellent. Looking forward to trying this. I’ll buy digital analogue converter for the master of my mixer and see what happens. Will let you know how I get on thanks 🙂

J

Jonpaul31Author

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So this arrived today:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B06WVLXBS6/ref=cm_sw_r_wa_api_i_DDMfEbPPGJS92

I am assuming it is sensible to have Beam turned off at wall before plugging in optical cable to avoid nasty pops?

J

Jonpaul31Author

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Update: It works although be nice to have a bit more control over the surrounds (I have a beam with 2x One as surrounds). I bought the Flexson analogue to digital converter; took the optical out of that into a female to female optical adaptor; then connected the Sonos optical to HDMI converter to the adaptor; finally plugging hdmi cable from beam into the converter- worked a treat

My decks are adjacent to the Beam so would have been nice to have it in Full mode instead of ambient and send the signal primarily to the Ones. Will have a play but you are very correct: No latency issues whatsoever so the decks, headphones and Sonos are nicely in sync. Problem solved for all those DJs wondering how.

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mpsjoe

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Update: It works although be nice to have a bit more control over the surrounds (I have a beam with 2x One as surrounds). I bought the Flexson analogue to digital converter; took the optical out of that into a female to female optical adaptor; then connected the Sonos optical to HDMI converter to the adaptor; finally plugging hdmi cable from beam into the converter- worked a treat

My decks are adjacent to the Beam so would have been nice to have it in Full mode instead of ambient and send the signal primarily to the Ones. Will have a play but you are very correct: No latency issues whatsoever so the decks, headphones and Sonos are nicely in sync. Problem solved for all those DJs wondering how.

After 2 years of researching alternative solutions in order to allow the connection of a dj setup, I finally let go of the idea of connecting my decks and went the SONOS route as it was more convenient for every other use. What you have just mentioned is music to my ears, but I’m not jumping the gun as my setup is slightly different…

Any idea if what you’ve mentioned would work with the Sonos AMP, using the HDMI input instead of the RCA inputs on the AMP?

As it stands, I only have my own hard wired speakers connected to the amp. I do have a sub, but it doesn’t need to be connected as I assume this may introduce a latency?

Any input would be appreciated.

J

Jonpaul31Author

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Hiya,

I fear you may still have the same problem according to the details in the first post of this thread, although the post I lifted it from doesn’t mention the HDMI so maybe. As such you would have to buy the Flexson convertor and third party optical adaptor I used and (using the same HDMI to optical convertor that comes with the Beam), plug into your amp HDMI. I have no idea if this will work or not. But I can tell you that the Beam and Sonos Ones work a treat and I am stoked. :-)

J

Jonpaul31Author

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PS: If you buy the Flexson from Amazon like I did, you could send back if it doesn’t work- Amazon returns policy is always very generous.

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