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Contributor I
Jul 20, 2018 10:08 AM UTC

Philips TV + Beam Lip Sync issues

Hi all, my first post here having been an avid reader of the forums ever since I bought my Sonos One a few weeks ago, and shortly after pre-ordered my Beam.

I've been having a few problems with the Beam. I think most are little bugs that will get improved/ironed out as the updates roll out. However the issue with lip sync (DD5.1, not stereo) makes the Beam unusable. It leaves me one of two possible conclusions.

1. My Philips 55PUS6272 is not fit for purpose with external DD5.1 receivers. I should send it back and buy a TV that can send DD5.1 without delay (as it's only a few weeks old).

Or, 2. My Beam is not fit for purpose and I should send it back. This would leave my Sonos One redundant too in my view, so I'd send that back too and invest in a different system).

Which is the right conclusion, I don't know. But given the amount of users on here with lip sync for a variety of TVs, it seems reasonable to assume it's a Sonos issue. I love the Beam in principle, I really feel as though it's targeted towards me - I've been waiting for the right product for a couple of years, which makes the lip sync issue even more frustrating!

I've tried every combination of settings on the TV/Beam, including both HDMI ARC and optical connections, to no avail. The beam sounds awesome in DD5.1 and switching to Stereo (which in my opinion sounds narrow in comparison), is not an acceptable solution for me. It's frustrating that the audio is already delayed behind the video, as both TV and Beam have options to delay audio (further!).

I've emailed Sonos my comments and hope to open up a dialog with them, but wanted to share on here in case any other users have a Philips TV. I'll of course share any solutions that come my way for the benefit of the community.
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18 replies

Airgetlam
Jan 7, 2019 11:17 PM UTC
If you buy a HDMI switch with optical, you'll find that the TV's issues will be obviated, and you'll get full Dolby Digital without any delay.
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Bruce
Lyricist II
Jan 7, 2019 11:40 PM UTC
I bought a 55PUS7303 with the latest updates and it also has the same lag problems. Its a shame I have to revert to stereo sound to workaround this problem. My Beam sounds so much better with DD.

Ive had my 65PUS7303 for a week now, with the beam, and this is driving me crazy.

Are we sure the TV is at fault, if so I might send it back as its not fit for purpose...
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Airgetlam
Jan 9, 2019 1:20 AM UTC
Try buying the HDMI switch, and see what happens. It's a low cost thing, that should prove to you that it is the TV's issue that you're trying to deal with.
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Bruce
Lyricist II
Jan 9, 2019 7:28 AM UTC
https://www.amazon.co.uk/EkoBuy®-UPGRADED-Control-Optical-Switcher-Black/dp/B0727QF9KH/ref=mp_s_a_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1547018180&sr=8-7&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=hdmi+switch+optical&dpPl=1&dpID=51JlciAujNL&ref=plSrch

Would that do the trick?
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Airgetlam
Jan 10, 2019 3:11 AM UTC
Looks like it should, yes.
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Bruce
Airgetlam
Jan 10, 2019 3:12 AM UTC
And let us know, please, if it resolves your lipsync issue.
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Bruce
Lyricist II
Jan 10, 2019 10:38 PM UTC
Yes it fixed the issue. The switch is rubbish, cheap and nasty but its allowed me to prove a point.

With HDMI ARC on, there is lip-sync delay, if I then press the button on the switch to disable ARC the lips sync right up immediately.

Its allowed me to prove there is some bug on the Philips TV, and not with my Sky or Sonos, so the Philips will be going back I am sad to say, and I will try a Sony Bravia next.

Such a shame, but I refuse to pay a lot of money for a TV then have to spend more on extras to make it work (and what Ive got is cheap nasty, would need to spend more to get better quality, and I don't want to have to switch manually ARC back on to get sound from the inbuilt TV apps such as Netflix and plex.
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Airgetlam
Jan 11, 2019 10:23 PM UTC
Thanks for the confirmation, although I'm sorry of the end result causing you so much trouble.

That being said, there seems to be a lot of issue with both LG and Samsung, so I think your choice of Sony might be a good one.

I happen to have an older Vizio, which I'm thinking of replacing sometime this year as well, so I'm paying particular attention.

Best of luck!
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Bruce