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Virtuoso
September 16, 2017

My work around 5.1 via HDMI, Playbar.

First off most of the information I have gleaned has come from here or the internet. This has worked for my setup and may not work for yours..

I wanted a seamless integration, no optical switchboxes, no new remotes etc.

You could be lucky and your TV may natively pass through HDMI 5.1 to TOSlink so try first before you buy any extras.

Basically the HDMI system does a HANDSHAKE when two items are connected, "most" TV's will be classed as a STEREO device because they only have two speakers; this is hard coded into the HDMI chip.. Anything connected to the TOS-LINK TV optical output after this is also classed as STEREO only including the Playbar/ Playbase.

When you connect a 5.1 capable source normally, it HANDSHAKES with the TV and the TV's HDMI EDID says "I've only got two speakers, pass me stereo only". This proves a problem when you own a Playbar..

I use a kwmobile EDID emulator, between the SOURCE (Blu-ray/ Set Top Box) and TV, when HANSHAKING now ths EDID emulator says "I'm a TV but capable of 5.1 surround".

The TV now has a full 5.1 sound input over HDMI and most can pass this through the Optical TOSlink to the Playbar.

With Blu-ray they are normally encoded with DTS which cannot be decoded with the Playbar, I chose to buy a Samsung BD-F6500 which has the option to downmix DTD to Dolby 5.1, it also has the Netflix APP which passes through 5.1 without issue from streamed content.

You will need one EDID emulator per HDMI input, but the beauty is you just use your TV as normal, no extra switches etc to control..
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RO53BEN
Enthusiast II
September 17, 2017
I've seen you mention these EDID emulators a few times. Do they require a power supply? Got a link for such a device?

Worth mentioning that my LG TV didn't pass through 5.1 but it took 10 seconds in the service menu of the TV to enable it - no adapter required for that.
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RO53BEN
Enthusiast II
September 17, 2017
OK, answered my own question.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/kwmobile-Manager-audio-video-control/dp/B01M3SH3CL

So they don't need a power supply but you need a £20 adapter and an extra HDMI lead for every connection? You have a lead from the blu-ray player to the adapter and another from the adapter to the TV? Not what I'd call seamless if I'm honest.

I also notice it doesn't support decent HDMI 2.0 or 4K60. Is there a newer model that's more modern?
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Prominent Collaborator II
September 17, 2017
Thanks Keithmac

I've heard of this device twice now and sounds promising.

I have a samsung tv that does not pass DD 5.1 from external sources via optical
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And as o have my tv and bar wall mounted with all cables behind the wall, i've been reluctant to get an hdmi splitter. This may solve my problem.

Thanks muck
KeithmacAuthor
Virtuoso
September 17, 2017
You do need an extra HDMI cable (forgot to mention), I bought some 30cm short ones for £3 a piece.

The boxes are small and once fitted you don't need to touch them again.

They do some 4k TV modes.

There are other EDID emulators about, I can't comment good or bad as I haven't used them.

The kwmobile units have been faultless for me so far.
Lyricist III
September 19, 2017
Thanks for this info. I'm going to buy the "kwmobile HDMI EDID Manager to audio and video control" to try and get dolby 5.1 passed through my Samsung SMART TV from my sat box to my playbase. Will be a relatively cheap fix if it works.
KeithmacAuthor
Virtuoso
September 19, 2017
I use position "E", 1080p with 5.1 Dolby although it does pass through higher resolutions without issue.

Let me know if you need any help.
RO53BEN
Enthusiast II
September 19, 2017
I use position "E", 1080p with 5.1 Dolby although it does pass through higher resolutions without issue.

Let me know if you need any help.


It will allow 4k, but only at 30Hz. Most modern 4k applications, like games consoles and UHD blu-ray, use HDMI 2.0 and 4k/60 which this does not support.
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Trending Lyricist I
September 21, 2017
Got it, tried it, didn't work. Still stereo only, no 5.1. Sony 65" Class Ultra-Slim 4K Ultra HD LED Smart TV MODEL: XBR65X900C
RO53BEN
Enthusiast II
September 21, 2017
What did you get? What source are you trying to get 5.1 from?
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Trending Lyricist I
September 21, 2017
I get only 'stereo' indicated. Tried several movies on Netflix and a couple of OTA stations.