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Temperamental
Temperamental
Trending Lyricist I
June 6, 2017

Is the SUB really an inferior product?

  • June 6, 2017
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I got completely roasted today on another forum for suggesting the SONOS SUB.
The sentiment on there was that it was part of a pretty package but that it isn't capable of serious performance with such small drivers for a living room and that it didn't even hit the marketed 25Hz (does it matter)?

I am not an audio gear-head so bear with me, what should my reply have been?
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Stanley_4
Stanley_4
Grand Maestro
October 17, 2017
We had a inexpensive rattly sub for a temporary setup, a 20 pound bag of lead shotgun pellets calmed it down.

I have a nice Infinity TSS-4000 setup with the 7000 sub in my main listening area, much larger speakers than Sonos but the best crossover freq from my testing is still 120 Hz.

I have a lot of low frequency signal on a some of what I listen to as I use a DBX Subharmonic Synthesizer and the difference with the big sub is very noticeable if the source has content in the enhancement frequency window.
amun
October 17, 2017
And in the case of Sonos, it isn't possible since that isn't a supported configuration.
Which is, putiing aside subjective views, probably the important bit 😉
Lucid AV
Lucid AV
Prodigy I
October 17, 2017
I have a nice Infinity TSS-4000 setup with the 7000 sub in my main listening area, much larger speakers than Sonos but the best crossover freq from my testing is still 120 Hz. That's what they're rated to. They're column speakers with 3.5" drivers, so 120Hz isn't a surprise and it's how the system has been designed. The guys at Infinity knew what they were doing. :)

I have a lot of low frequency signal on a some of what I listen to as I use a DBX Subharmonic Synthesizer and the difference with the big sub is very noticeable if the source has content in the enhancement frequency window.Even that only goes down to 26Hz which is still within the 20Hz-20kHz window for most electronics.

Within naturally produced music (as opposed to electronically sourced) the lowest note comes from a 32ft organ pipe and produces 16Hz. Most gear isn't going to be able to reproduce that, so we'll hear the 32kHz harmonic but not the fundamental.

The Low Frequency Effects channel (LFE) of a movie has an audio range from 3Hz to 120Hz. There are only a few films that get down to the lower end of that range. Black Hawk Down is pretty famous for it. Dare Devil has some stuff happening at 16-17Hz and I think some of the Matrix films dipped low too. Most people aren't aware there's adio that low because their systems have protection circuits to prevent such low frequency energy wrecking the sub.
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    mwiseman
    Enthusiast II
    October 17, 2017
    I have two of the Sonos subs and I think for the price, they are very good.
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