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melvimbe
melvimbe
November 11, 2021

From a streaming perspective yes, but I'm sure there are a fair few users who have Blu-ray players and use disks which the main audio format is still DTS on those. 

 

Which is not relevant to the original question.  Will the emergence of 13 Disney + titles using DTS:X push Sonos to adopt the codec?  Highly unlikely.   To my knowledge, the prevalence of bluray disks with DTS:X isn’t really growing, so if it wasn’t enough before, that it’s not now.

To be clear, I’m not saying there is no chance DTS:X doesn’t get done on Sonos, just that it won’t be because of mounting pressure.  It will be because cheaper licensing, dev costs, etc.

 

Danny
    Simmz
    Prodigy I
    November 11, 2021

    DTS is used on every Blu-ray pretty much. Has the major market for pretty much 95% of disks with DTS:X incorporated on most the latest ones. Is it a dyeing market, I don't think it will be, but that isn't Sonos audience though they target the streaming market. 

    I'm not too fussed as it gets converted to lpcm anyway and the Atmos on the Arc is absolutely rubbish compared to a proper Atmos setup, but then I didn't buy it for that either so I'm not overly fussed and if I'm honest would DTS:X sound that great on the Arc, probably not. 

    Going on the Disney thing, I'd prefer to see more movies in Imax format and have no black bars and actually utilise TV's to their full size. 

    AjTrek1
    AjTrek1
    November 11, 2021

    From a streaming perspective yes, but I'm sure there are a fair few users who have Blu-ray players and use disks which the main audio format is still DTS on those. 

    Well …DTS is coming. Just not DTS:X 😂

    Together Everyone Achieves More = T.E.A.M.
    Simmz
    Prodigy I
    November 11, 2021

    From a streaming perspective yes, but I'm sure there are a fair few users who have Blu-ray players and use disks which the main audio format is still DTS on those. 

    Well …DTS is coming. Just not DTS:X 😂

     

    Hold my beer 😁

    melvimbe
    melvimbe
    November 11, 2021

    DTS is used on every Blu-ray pretty much. Has the major market for pretty much 95% of disks with DTS:X incorporated on most the latest ones. Is it a dyeing market, I don't think it will be, but that isn't Sonos audience though they target the streaming market.

     

     

    DVDs/bluerays used to take up a good 30% of the floor space in my local electronics store, right in the front.  Now, it’s relegated to half an aisle in the rear corner.  Coffee makers get better shelf space.  But hey, maybe people are just buying all their disks online.

    I'm not too fussed as it gets converted to lpcm anyway and the Atmos on the Arc is absolutely rubbish compared to a proper Atmos setup, but then I didn't buy it for that either so I'm not overly fussed and if I'm honest would DTS:X sound that great on the Arc, probably not. 

    Going on the Disney thing, I'd prefer to see more movies in Imax format and have no black bars and actually utilise TV's to their full size. 

     

    It will be interesting to see how things progress.

    Danny
    AjTrek1
    AjTrek1
    November 11, 2021

    One last comment…

    It’s been said (rumored) by Sonos (or someone) that DTS is coming by year end if not before. Well it’s November. So don’t work yourself into a tizzy if DTS doesn’t show up until next year.

    Sometimes a product or feature launch gets pushed back for reasons that may never be known to the general public. If you were around when the voice assistants were first announced Google Home seemed like it would never see the light of day in Sonos even though it had been promised at or around “X” time frame(s) that never seemed to come?

    However, Google Home is now a reality. The delay never bothered me as I’m in the Alexa camp. 😊

    Together Everyone Achieves More = T.E.A.M.
    geek-god
    Trending Lyricist I
    November 11, 2021

    I understand the appeal that Sonos has to many buyers but one thing I personally do not like is how much it relies on your TV.  

    does my tv have arc or earc?  is it able to pass through atmos with no earc?  what about DTS

    and remember everyone, if your TV cannot send DTS through arc/earc you have to go though the expensive and may be complicated way of arcana, and of course LPCM 7.1 to 5.1 is not fixed yet.

     

    many other sound bars in sonos’s price range already support DTS:X and more importantly they have HDMI passthrough capability so you don’t have to rely on your TV.   simply connect your DTS source to soundbar and problem is fixed.  I really wish sonos had done the same but of course it would have more cost for sonos………..

    melvimbe
    melvimbe
    November 11, 2021

    I understand the appeal that Sonos has to many buyers but one thing I personally do not like is how much it relies on your TV.  

    does my tv have arc or earc?  is it able to pass through atmos with no earc?  what about DTS

    and remember everyone, if your TV cannot send DTS through arc/earc you have to go though the expensive and may be complicated way of arcana, and of course LPCM 7.1 to 5.1 is not fixed yet.

     

    many other sound bars in sonos’s price range already support DTS:X and more importantly they have HDMI passthrough capability so you don’t have to rely on your TV.   simply connect your DTS source to soundbar and problem is fixed.  I really wish sonos had done the same but of course it would have more cost for sonos………..

     

    My personal opinion is that the best setup is one where your video isn’t dependent on your audio equipment, and your audio isn’t dependent on your video equipment.  I don’t want to be concerned about video specs when picking out audio equipment, nor concerned about audio specs when picking out a TV/projector.   An HDMI switch/Arcana/ similar device in the middle that connects to sources and the proper audio and video equipment, maximizing capabilities, sounds good to me.

    Danny
    Boardwah
    Lyricist I
    November 14, 2021

    Given Sono’s stance on generally providing codecs to streaming services, its now become aparent that the Disney+ service will start to utilize DTS:X.

    Refer to Article: https://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1636365375

     

    Will Sonos add DTS:X Codecs to the platform, and in doing do, add the full DTS codec suite?

    Sounds like the type of guy that doesnt own a Sonos product until its "Perfect” :)

    Simmz
    Prodigy I
    November 16, 2021

    One last comment…

    It’s been said (rumored) by Sonos (or someone) that DTS is coming by year end if not before. Well it’s November. So don’t work yourself into a tizzy if DTS doesn’t show up until next year.

    Sometimes a product or feature launch gets pushed back for reasons that may never be known to the general public. If you were around when the voice assistants were first announced Google Home seemed like it would never see the light of day in Sonos even though it had been promised at or around “X” time frame(s) that never seemed to come?

    However, Google Home is now a reality. The delay never bothered me as I’m in the Alexa camp. 😊

     

    Looks like the update has gone live today. 

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