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Lead Maestro
November 10, 2021

So far, Sonos has only announced support for DTS Digital Surround audio that’s coming with an update before the end of the year.

DTS:X is far behind Dolby Atmos in market share. DTS:X has only been available on a small number of titles on physical media and has been almost non-existent on streaming services. This has resulted in little to no demand for DTS:X support from consumers. But since Disney+ and MCU films are hugely popular, hopefully this announcement will help Sonos get closer to offering DTS:X support. But I believe it will take much more than one popular streaming service offering 13 films with DTS:X to fully convince Sonos. There would need to be more widespread adoption from other popular apps like Netflix, HBO Max, and Apple TV+.

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Prodigy I
November 10, 2021

DTS:X is so much nicer than Atmos though. Miles clearer to pinpoint object based sound, it just works better. I know DTS is making a push at the moment as well and I can't see cinemas or blu ray disks dropping the format either. Be interesting to see if any other providers follow suit, only takes one for the sheep to then follow :p

Lyricist I
November 10, 2021

Since Sonos just made the very deliberate decision to leave out DTS:X support in their most recent DTS announcement, I’d say this is highly unlikely.

And I could definitely be wrong here, but I don’t believe that Disney has promised DTS:X support, only DTS. I’d also like to point out that Bravia Core, the only other streaming service with an IMAX Enhanced partnership only streams DTS core (which is almost broken by the way on Sonos after the current mandatory conversion to Dolby Digital by the TV- one of the reasons I can’t wait for DTS support) and this is on an 80mbps stream.

It probably has to do with the general lack of DTS:X support at the device level when it comes to streaming apps or issues compressing it to make it suitable for streaming. If it’s the former, passthrough (like through a Shield) could be a different story.

Prodigy I
November 10, 2021

Thing is, DTS:X would be so much more beneficial to Sonos. The fact that it actually works really good with 5.1 systems and doesn't even require upfiring speakers for it to work, has always boggled me to why they haven't introduced it. It's also a very basic firmware update that would even work on old devices. But let's see, hopefully adding the bog standard DTS is the first step.  

Enthusiast II
November 10, 2021

It’s all about the money… DTS wants some heavy licensing fees. I would not even bet on Sonos having DTS licensed. There are free DTS decoders that they may use to save licensing fees. That would explain why they will only support the DTS core in my opinion because I don’t really see why they would only support this if they license it. 

melvimbe
November 10, 2021

The licensing fees definitely play a big part, but it surely has to do with volume of DTS content as well.  In that regard, I’m not sure that Disney + adopting DTS-X means that Sonos is really going to be pushed to DTX-S.    According to the article posted, we are talking about 13 titles only and formatted in IMAX.  And all thirteen titles, you’ll see be able to watch the title in normal format with dolby.

This really reads as Disney trying to use IMAX as way to encourage subscriptions rather than a monumental shift audio codecs.  Sure, it could be the start of a shift, but way to early to tell at this point.  When other streaming services do this, and some titles are only in DTS-X, then Sonos will have some real pressure to respond.

Danny
Lyricist III
November 11, 2021

please somebody explain this for me, there is a huge difference between Atmos TrueHD vs DTS:X ?

I mean, like there is between DTS and DD

Prodigy I
November 11, 2021

It all comes down to personal preference really. Only thing I like about DTS:X is the fact it's more object based and can distinguish it far better than Atmos, plus you can control every channel volume wise, which going on the amount of people having issues with voices in films would be good for Sonos. Hopefully they add that feature to adjust the center one like they did the heights. I don't personally have problems myself, but have seen numerous posts on various forums. 

As for your question, have a read of:

https://www.whathifi.com/advice/dts-vs-dolby-digital-whats-the-difference

 

 

AjTrek1
November 11, 2021

Really funny.

I remember when this community was jammed with posts of why no Dolby Atmos on Sonos and no DTS. The former is now a reality and latter a TBA. 

Fast forward and now it’s DTS:X that’s the “why doesn’t Sonos offer it”. See the pattern? There will always be a “why not this codec support”.

As has been said no company is going to pay license fees and take up memory on their devices to support something that’s only offered by one source (DIsney).  Factor in 13 titles as opposed to the thousands of titles offered on multiple platforms that are coded for the current audio formats…well it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to solve the equation.  

Sonos is a public traded company.  IMO Sonos won’t move on DTX:S until the ROI pays dividends to it’s investors.

Just be patient…it’s all about supply and demand for DTX:S…both of which are extremely low at this point. 

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Prodigy I
November 11, 2021

From a streaming perspective yes, but I'm sure there are a fair few users who have Blu-ray players and use disks which the main audio format is still DTS on those.