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Trending Lyricist I
May 30, 2022

can we please get dts hd and dts x it is 2022 afterall

hi just touching on this which im sure has already been asked plenty of times, but can we just get dts hd and dts x already it seems crazy to me to think a system that can cost up to and over 1500 hasnt the ability to play these modern formats, when you could pick up a standard av receiver for about 300 pound which would support all the mentioned formats

I have found myself more times than enough now sitting down to watch a film and simply getting mute audio just because it is in dts hd or dts x and quite alot of the time this is when i have friends and family over so it isnt a good look for the sonos brand that it cant produce sound for these types of movies or tv shows

it is somnething that could quite easily be achieved since yous went and enabled dts standard after not supporting it, i feel if yous want to be seen as the go to soundbars yous then have to make sure its the go to for audio formats also which currently it isnt dont get me wrong the sonos eco system and products are fantastic and i love my setup but to do dts but not go as far as offering dts hd or dts x is just lazy

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Trending Lyricist I
May 30, 2022

its not just sonos as bose have took a similar approach along with various tv brands

There is a good reason for this… and it isn’t because of “laziness”.

yeah and the reason is because customers asked for it thats the reason, so sonos decided to go half measure and add dts when they could have added the whole dts range which is where the laziness part comes from

Just curious… if lossless DTS support is so important to you, why did you invest in a system that doesn’t support it?

at the time of purchasing i genuinely didnt know it was a thing that it was missing as i owned numerous av receivers before this and the issue was never there, i wanted a simpler setup with less running wires and cleaner setup so went for the sonos arc and ones and sub, system has been great for the most part but imo is let down by its lack of simple support for the formats mentioned

 

@skullc i own a samsung qn800a which has a passthrough option but i also have a hdfury vrroom device also which would mean the tv brand not supporting dts would not be an issue for me which is why the last stumbling block for me is sonos not supporting it

skullc
Prodigy III
May 30, 2022

My lgb8 has pass through as well but 10 years ago I started buying digital on iTunes so dts isn't that much of an issue for me as dvds got given away 

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Lyricist III
May 30, 2022

Just to be clear, the DTS and LPCM I can get from my Arc home theater sounds great.  It’s just a shame I still cant get the non-lossy DTS-HD or object oriented DTS:X as well.

@LBJ2: I was also surprised when Sony included DTS as a streaming format for some of its newer tvs.

 

FWIW putting together a few DTS: X Blu-rays so I can compare DTS: X on the HT-A9 with Sonos in a few days. I just bought a 4K UHD DTS: X Blu-ray called “Lone Survivor” w/ Mark Wahlberg and tried it out on the Sonos 5.1.2 via LCPM 7.1 pass through. This Blu-ray sounds terrific on the Sonos 5.1.2. Lots of room filling dynamic sound and some good helicopters demos throughout too.* It’s a bloody war movie with many F-Bombs so not for children to hear or see. Very curious how this will sound with true DTS: X on the HT-A9 compared to the Sonos 5.1.2. But if you want to rock your Sonos 5.1.2 with a $15 Blu-ray...“Lone Survivor” 👍🏼

Lyricist III
May 30, 2022

its not just sonos as bose have took a similar approach along with various tv brands

There is a good reason for this… and it isn’t because of “laziness”.

yeah and the reason is because customers asked for it thats the reason, so sonos decided to go half measure and add dts when they could have added the whole dts range which is where the laziness part comes from

Just curious… if lossless DTS support is so important to you, why did you invest in a system that doesn’t support it?

at the time of purchasing i genuinely didnt know it was a thing that it was missing as i owned numerous av receivers before this and the issue was never there, i wanted a simpler setup with less running wires and cleaner setup so went for the sonos arc and ones and sub, system has been great for the most part but imo is let down by its lack of simple support for the formats mentioned

 

@skullc i own a samsung qn800a which has a passthrough option but i also have a hdfury vrroom device also which would mean the tv brand not supporting dts would not be an issue for me which is why the last stumbling block for me is sonos not supporting it

Same for me. I didn't know what I didn’t know at the time of purchase.  Now I know too much about DTS, DTS: HD and DTS: X and find myself with a lot of DTS content. However, the Sonos 5.1.2 has brought a lot of fun and entertainment to my family and me for the last year. It’s a great system with a few flaws e.g., only one HDMI port and no support for object-based DTS codecs. But Dolby Atmos is fantastic and prolific on the market to include streaming and once I figured out how to pass through LCPM for DTS content that can sound very, very good too. After all is said and done I unknowingly purchased a 4K OLED TV, Sonos and 4K UHD Blu-ray player 🥴 that don't support either DTS or DTS:X with each other. HA! Lessons learned. But I can't really complain. 

Corry P
Sonos Staff
June 3, 2022

Hi @daryld1988 

Thanks for your post!

I've marked this thread as a feature request and it will be seen by the relevant teams for consideration.

"Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen." - Albert Einstein
Trending Lyricist I
June 3, 2022

Hi @daryld1988 

Thanks for your post!

I've marked this thread as a feature request and it will be seen by the relevant teams for consideration.

really appreciate that thank you

Prominent Collaborator II
June 3, 2022

Thanks @Corry P!

HT: Arc + Era 300s + Subs (G3/G2) + Sony A80L + Sony UBP-X800M2
Lyricist III
June 3, 2022

Why did you buy sonos knowing full well it doesn’t support these formats ? If you really wanted DTS-HD you could have got any number of sound bars or any number of receivers that do . The percentage of people still using physical disks or Plex is declining so why would a company spend millions implementing a format that a very small percentage use .  I know I’m harsh but here are some numbers I just looked up. 
Just in the US alone Netflix has almost 75 million subscribers . Units of UHD players sold last year is not even 500k . Then how many of those players will be used with a sonos arc or beam ? Very very small percentage . 

Prominent Collaborator II
June 3, 2022

Why did you buy sonos knowing full well it doesn’t support these formats ? If you really wanted DTS-HD you could have got any number of sound bars or any number of receivers that do . The percentage of people still using physical disks or Plex is declining so why would a company spend millions implementing a format that a very small percentage use .  I know I’m harsh but here are some numbers I just looked up. 
Just in the US alone Netflix has almost 75 million subscribers . Units of UHD players sold last year is not even 500k . Then how many of those players will be used with a sonos arc or beam ? Very very small percentage . 

Not sure who you are referring to as “you” here. None of my posts indicate I was in any way misled or surprised to learn of the lack of DTS-HD and DTS:X support on my Arc after I bought it. In fact, for me, I only made the decision to buy the Arc once it was clear there was going to at least be support for LPCM.  As for UHD players sold last year, sure, it is a shrinking market.  But focusing only on last year sales fails to acknowledge the existing installed base of all the players still in use.  And maybe that is still a small portion of the Sonos customer base.  Got it.  But it certainly includes me.

Btw, your points, which are valid, were previously also raised by others, and yet Sonos reversed its decision to not provide any support for DTS by later adding support for basic DTS.  What changed?  Well, customers requested it.  Whether Sonos ever provides support for DTS-HD and DTS:X is obviously up to them.  Maybe it’s just not worth the cost to them.  Maybe they will add it.  But its hardly an unreasonable suggestion in terms of a feature request for a sound bar.

 

HT: Arc + Era 300s + Subs (G3/G2) + Sony A80L + Sony UBP-X800M2
Trending Lyricist I
June 7, 2022

Hello,

I would assume if DTS-HD content is not interpreted by the Beam or the Arc, DTS core content should be played instead now that both are DTS compatible, shouldn’t it?