can we please get dts hd and dts x it is 2022 afterall

It’s called a business decision. Unfortunately nothing is cost-free.

poor 1 at that to support the most outdated version of dts while it is welcomed that they added it surely it wouldnt take much as some suggested even a small liscencing fee to pay in the app to add it i know myself and plenty others would happily do this

I’m wondering what the point is of adding DTS HD or DTS X support. Or even regular DTS for that matter: most newer TV’s from popular brands don’t support it any longer (also not passthrough).

For example LG’s and Samsung TV’s don’t anymore - so even if your Sonos would support it, it would be useless for most people.

many blurays only have dts hd or dts x as an audio option and blu rays are of course the best way to watch movies for the quality so this is why it is important to atleast some of us out there who would like to have both best picture and audio possible to them 

I think you are perhaps referring to the older Blu-ray movies, these days they appear mainly to have a Dolby Digital TrueHD (w or w/o Atmos) audio track, which the Arc/Beam g2 will happily play.

That said, I too would like the option to make a ‘one-off’ payment for the DTS HQ/X codecs to be added which then help to cover any development/licensing costs.

It would be a brave product manager who proposed a project, with significant opportunity costs, in the hope that an unknown fraction of a fraction of the users would subscribe and deliver some incremental revenue -- using, I might add, a new business model -- to cover it.

The general philosophy at Sonos appears to be that physical formats are heading the way of the dodo, and that streaming will dominate.

Well, even with a bluray player that won’t work - unless you hook your bluray player directly into you Sonos I guess. But with newer TV’s and using ARC/eARC and connecting your bluray player to your TV: that won’t work because the TV’s don’t support DTS(all) passthrough anymore.

I think that is silly btw - I would love it if TV’s would continue to support it, and if Sonos would support it too. But unfortunately as you see with Sonos & LG/Samsung it seems DTS support is being dropped with everything (or never being added).

If DTS:X is important, then the Sonos system may not be the system to buy.

There are plenty of remastered in 4K UHD blu-rays coming out in DTS: X, not Dolby Atmos but many of the new 4K UHD Blu-rays seem to be coming out mostly as Dolby Atmos ( but not all)...so clearly a trend, at least for now. Let’s see if IMax format with DTS: X (object based audio) increases its footprint on physical discs going forward or not.

I have a double whammy DTS: X block situation in that my LG TV doesn’t support any type of DTS even with the Sonos Arc now supporting DTS base codec but apparently not DTS license and the Sonos ARC only has one HDMI port, so no bypassing the TV with the Sonos Arc for DTS or true DTS:X. At least I can pass through LCPM 5.1/7.1 for DTS: HD Blu-rays, but I don't think that includes object based audio from DTS:X 

Next week I’m picking up the Sony HT-A9 with a Sub and will compare with my Sonos Arc 5.1.2. The HT-A9 supports all these sound formats and provides an additional two rear up firing speakers for a total of four up firing speakers. 4.1.4 w/ sub AND a second HDMI port so I can bypass my DTS blocking TV! Very excited to compare these systems. 

Otherwise, I really enjoy the Sonos 5.1.2 Dolby Atmos and 5.1 and do hope that one day Sonos provides up firing rear surrounds too. But seems like Sonos is spending its new product resources these days on miniature sound devices with lots of color choices 🙃 so who knows if and when we will ever see ARC compatible up-firing rear surround speakers and Sonos ARC support for DTS:X license. I’m thinking we will never see a second HDMI port on any new ARC sound bar. 

I started amassing my blu-ray collection at the start of the pandemic.  I have (happily) invested a lot and probably will hit about 1,000 titles by the end of 2022.  Some people blow money on cars and vacations, for me its been blu-rays.😂.  Anyway, roughly 60% of my movies are either DTS-HD or DTS:X.  For more than a year now, in particular, my purchases have been mostly of new releases, meaning titles that up until now were not offered in blu-ray format.  While it’s true that newly produced movies distributed in the blu-ray format usually include dolby as the audio format, more often than not, existing titles that are newly released in the blu-ray format include DTS-HD as the audio format.  They just do.  And these existing titles are still a big part of the market for new blu-ray releases, which is apparent from sites like www.blu-ray.com.  That won’t be case forever, but that is the reality today.

I wrote that I will be picking up the HT-A9 to compare with my Sonos next week but I just realized I am scheduled pick it up in a few days 🥳. I have plenty of DTS:X object based audio 4K UHD blu-ray's to test and compare between the two systems. And like you wrote there appear to be many others with lots of DTS:X/HD content as well.  With LCPM pass through on my Sonos I don't think I am hearing DTS:X object based audio but surely DTS and DTS: HD via LCPM pass through, which sounds pretty good on the Sonos. This is something I will be paying close attention to during the comparison of both systems in my own environment. Of course hoping to hear what .4 vs .2 can do for Dolby Atmos as well.

I have no idea why some major brands abandoned DTS. Sony OTOH seems to be promoting DTS right along side Dolby. Not sure if its a license expense thing for the other brands or maybe DTS doesn't want to proliferate so much in the consumer market? I've read Dolby Atmos is easier to compress for streaming purposes which I have found to sound very good with Sonos. I know streaming is getting better and better, but also all the major studios continue to produce plenty of physical discs globally with both DTS and Dolby.