Contributor I

Android and Trueplay

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I have read the thread on no Android integration for Trueplay, but I would hope spending 1500 on a system there would be a better solution than "borrow an iOS device from a friend"! Especially after3+ years!!! First thought, if it is a microphone issue, then standardize your system with 1 mic to calibrate your system with. Yamaha, Marantz, Denon, Pioneer etc ALL provide a setup mic with their systems. Microphones among iOS devices also differ, they are different from year to year and model to model. So that verbage doesn't add up or holdmuch water. Second, before the android bashing begins, I bet the cost of my system if the table was turned and it only worked on android and not iOS devices, there would be a loud outcry of Apple users, especially if told to go "borrow" an android from a friend. Not that this will change anything but I got to express my opinion. I'm the proud owner of a top-of-the-line Sonos system that is"Meh" at best.

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Pinned Reply By Xander P

Hi @ihavoc, thanks for reaching out to the Sonos Community.

While it may not be specified on the Arc page that an iOS device is required for Trueplay, you can find here a list of Trueplay compatible devices, and it’s also stated on the main TruePlay page that an iOS device is required - that being said I’ll be happy to pass on your feedback to make it a little more obvious.

Regarding the different models of each iPhone line having different microphones - while this is true, the number of different models of phone running Android operating systems is on a different scale (a quick Google search showed 24,000 different models in 2015), with potentially thousands of different models of microphone installed, and different combinations of microphone, OS, and other hardware components. While we would love to bring Trueplay support to all Sonos systems, accounting for that level of variability in a process which requires precise measurements like Trueplay is unfortunately not feasible.

I do agree though that bringing Trueplay to non-iOS households (like my own) would be a great improvement, and hopefully it’s something that will be possible in the future.

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Android Bob

Lyricist II

Clearly passionate defense of status quo. Nevertheless, for the global smartphone market, more than 70 percent are Android as of 2022, according to Statcounter. Maybe Sonos is comfortable limiting themselves to half the US market?

melvimbe

Clearly passionate defense of status quo.

Should be pretty easy to logically debunk that defense then.

Nevertheless, for the global smartphone market, more than 70 percent are Android as of 2022, according to Statcounter. Maybe Sonos is comfortable limiting themselves to half the US market?

Your link is to worldwide data. Here is the US only data, showing android at around 44%. However, neither is fully relevant since Sonos does not operate in every country in the world, and the demographic of typical Sonos customer likely does match the general population of smartphone user. I mean, a 12 year old kid has a smartphone, but they aren’t buying Sonos anything

But for the sake of argument, let’s say android is 50% of Sonos market. You still have to factor in that many can borrow an idevice or choose to go without. Suggesting that Sonos is limiting themselves to half the US market assumes android users can’t use Sonos, which is just not true. And you still have to factor in the dev costs for the variety of mics on androids vs idevice.

I would love to see trueplay on android, or a separate mic device, personally. I’m just saying that it’s not too surprising that Sonos hasn’t done this considering what we know.

Danny

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weaver27

Contributor I

SONOS is attempting to measure the room characteristics. A simple wired microphone typically determines conditions at a spot -- and the wire is always too short -- or “I forgot where I stored the microphone” -- or the speaker is sitting on a high shelf (“how do I attach the microphone?”).

Admittedly, I don’t have a proper sample, but most SONOS users that I encounter have iDevices. SONOS would be aware of the actual percentages that use Android.

Sure, SONOS could sell a free standing wireless microphone. How much would you be willing to pay for such a device? Would you be grumbling that iDevice users would not need to purchase such a device? Should SONOS include such a device with each speaker? Of course this would imply raising prices to accommodate development, support (remember that SONOS offers “free” support), and production costs. And, for anyone who has an iDevice, there would eventually be extra junk for the recycle stream.

Now I am not like other people. If the cost is less than half of a new apple device, then I would be willing to buy something. I am going to have 3-4 rooms with several devices so that is a reasonable expense. I suggest enabling the Roam with microphone as a work around. I would be willing to buy one.

melvimbe

Now I am not like other people. If the cost is less than half of a new apple device, then I would be willing to buy something. I am going to have 3-4 rooms with several devices so that is a reasonable expense. I suggest enabling the Roam with microphone as a work around. I would be willing to buy one.

I would be good with the Roams as tuning mic as well. Not sure that that is possible, and I’m sure many would be offended by a $180 tuning mic. If it were possible but the required code didn’t fit in with Roams other functions, I would even be ok with having to do a factory reset to put it in ‘tuning mode’.

Completely unrelated, but I also like the idea of putting the Roam in “voice remote” mode and bonding to Sonos room that does’t have any voice mics in it. You can effectively do this now, but you have to remember to state the room name. I really just think the form factor of the Roam, and think it could be used in many different ways.

Danny

Stanley_4

Grand Maestro

The reason I’d like a dedicated mike is I am tired of buying replacements for my Apple whatever when it ages out and Sonos drops support for it.

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kdth_jhspk69

Renowned Enthusiast I

Do you think Sonos could add the Samsung flagship models to run TruePlay? This would be very useful...

Airgetlam

Anything is possible, but I have a few questions for you.

Do these Samsung models use the same microphone hardware within each model, or is there variability, even within each model line?

Which models are Samsung’s ‘flagship models’?

What percentage of Sonos users have these Samsung devices, in order to make the effort of customizing the system to recognize just those models as TruePlay compliant worth the code effort? Corollary: why just Samsung, and not any other manufacturer’s flagship line?

What would Sonos’ customer support strategy be for all the Android users who don’t have those specific Samsung models, and would not be able to access TruePlay?

Bruce

melvimbe

I would guess there are more discussion at Sonos on how they could drop trueplay in favor of using ‘quick trueplay’ for android AND apple...then there are discussions about expanding trueplay to non-Apple devices.

Baseless guess though.

Danny

Stanley_4

Grand Maestro

Make a Sonos USB mike that plugs into apple or Android, sell it for enough to make a tidy profit and stop supporting any internal mikes after a couple years/updates.

Never had the hassles with my Denon, Infinity or Yamaha external miles that I have had with the Apple ones, they just worked with no need to buy a new Apple device every couple years as the old one goes unsupported.

buzz

Grand Maestro

Would you be willing to submit your phone/pad to a local servicer for calibration? Would a fee be appropriate?

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