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Mazmoneth
Contributor I
July 12, 2018

AirPlay 2 support (Playbar + Sonos One)

Frustrated at the lack of clarity on the Airplay 2 rollout.
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melvimbe
August 11, 2018
I have two Sonos setups, one at home and one at a church with no internet connection. The latter is useless – a complete waste of money since Sonos upgraded the App with a feature that forces an internet connection before it will work. Everything worked well for years and then – poof – useless!
So now I’m reading about the Airplay2 and am wondering if I may be able to get around my issue.


Your issue is that you can't manage to upgrade your Sonos units to match the version of your controlerl. Airplay 2 support is introduced in version 9.0, which is not what your Sonos units are at. Therefore, you won't be able to use airplay until your units are updated...your original problem.

So no, airplay 2 won't work around your issue since it requires the issue to be resolved first in order to operate.
Danny
Avid Contributor III
August 11, 2018
John B - thanks for all that but...........you've obviously not read ALL of that thread from the other post. I get what you are saying. As I say, been there - done that and it won't work. I already did everything you suggested. And more. Sonos are of no help and I've tried. They are clueless and the reason is simple...what you are doing is missing a very crucial part - that you HAVE to have an internet connection before the controller will work. I don't care if yours works ok for you - FIVE technically savy ppl cannot get mine working. So, I really don't want to discuss this further as this is the wrong place for it. I will say one thing, that there is one soulution and that is for Sonos to fix their software so it does NOT look for a connection to the net before it will open. They will not do this, so consequently I have a dud system.

THIS POST was about whether I could use the new Airplay2 feature. This is what Paulw123, has missed. I have read that if I had a Play one I could get that setup and connect to the Playbar but what I'm now realising is that I'm still at square 1, in that in setting up the Play One I would need that internet connection. We are simply giving up on Sonos ad saving to buy another system. In the meantime I purchased a thrid party controller - it just connects and works (hear that Sonos!!!), but it does not have a few features that the Sonos controller has and it makes it cumbersome because of that.

Many thank for the comments from all of you.
August 12, 2018
Goodbye then and good riddance say I. Paul123
melvimbe and I did answer your question, because you would be unable to add a Sonos One to your system until you resolved the incompatible version issue. But then you would not need it.

A temporary internet connection is needed to update. A LAN is needed to play but not an internet connection. Those are facts. Goodbye.
Avid Contributor III
August 12, 2018
Don't be a baby JohnBaby. Melvimbe DID answer and you didn't. Paul made his comment before he had chance to read my Post of 5 months; so not his fault.
That's why I said this is the wrong Post and thanked you all as i got my answer....... but you whinge on.
You need to read in full - that's twice I've said that btw. Your comprehension sklls are poor. Move on..........
August 12, 2018
You DO need to be connected in order to update, and you cannot add a new speaker without updating..The implication being that you could not add Airplay to your system in its current state. And if you resolved its current state you would not need Airplay.

I have read that if I had a Play one I could get that setup and connect to the Playbar but what I'm now realising is that I'm still at square 1, in that in setting up the Play One I would need that internet connection..
Glad you got there in the end. Your comments are arrogant and ignorant. Btw, Sonos do not make a speaker called a Play One.
Paulw123
Virtuoso
August 13, 2018
Is Mr Richard correct with his statement :-
"you HAVE to have an internet connection before the controller will work"
I guess he is using sonophone app instead?
August 13, 2018
Is Mr Richard correct with his statement :-
"you HAVE to have an internet connection before the controller will work"
I guess he is using sonophone app instead?
He is completely wrong as far as any Sonos app is concerned. If his app is not working it is because it is on a different version from the speakers. That would require a temporary connection to correct, but once everything is on the same version all that is needed is a LAN, not an internet connection.

That has always been the case and I proved it to myself in last couple of days that it remains so.
Contributor I
January 11, 2019
Hi guys, thanks for the feedback, and great discussion. As melvimbe and jgatie said, "group" is a specific Sonos action in this case, something you do within the Sonos app by pressing the group button. It's different from making a stereo pair or bonding surround speakers.

I'll make sure to pass along your feedback to the team about your confusion around the messaging. I hope you've gotten your answer at this point, but let me know if you have any more.

It is your home theater product (Playbar, Playbase or Beam) that will determine your setup’s AirPlay 2 compatibility, as that device controls the room.


Hi Ryan,

I know this topic has been done to death on here (hence not starting a new thread and instead quoting your post here) but the one thing I haven’t been able to see any clarification on is this...

“Is it possible for software upgrades to make the ones enable Airplay and/or voice control on a home theatre set up with a playbar in the future.”

Then if so is it something that is being worked on already?

Airplay does add convenience to my other speakers (eg when has ones set up independently, airport express linked to connect amp) to use apps not supported by Sonos and while I’m not in the lynch mob of thinking I’ve been ripped off, it is frustrating knowing components of my set up are essentially disabled.

Knowing if it is a future possibility or not would at least be interesting to know

Thanks!
jgatie
January 11, 2019
It is not a future possibility. The architecture of the surround setup requires all decoding be at the master unit, the Playbar.
Contributor I
January 12, 2019
It is not a future possibility. The architecture of the surround setup requires all decoding be at the master unit, the Playbar.

that's a real shame.
I'm sure there's a new player in the works that has airplay 2 (there simply has to) and despite only getting my playbar recently you cant wait forever thinking the upgrade is around the corner without any certainty.

At least echo dot adds the voice control (unfortunately not siri but that at least is good for radio use). I can use my apple TV to give some siri control but obviously there are negatives associated with that. Pity theres no echo dot equivalent for siri that can connect to paybar