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Mazmoneth
Contributor I
July 12, 2018

AirPlay 2 support (Playbar + Sonos One)

Frustrated at the lack of clarity on the Airplay 2 rollout.
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Mazmoneth
MazmonethAuthor
Contributor I
July 12, 2018
Thanks for your replies. I do think it is a very confusing situation, I can see how both myself and retailers could be guilty of believing it would work. I would be happy if Sonos implementing a ‘scene’ mode to easily switch between ‘home cinema’ and ‘airplay music’ mode.
melvimbe
July 12, 2018
I get that. I'm rather used to Sonos terminology that I forget that other people don't see it that way sometimes.
Danny
Ryan S
Retired Sonos Staff
July 12, 2018
Hi guys, thanks for the feedback, and great discussion. As melvimbe and jgatie said, "group" is a specific Sonos action in this case, something you do within the Sonos app by pressing the group button. It's different from making a stereo pair or bonding surround speakers.

I'll make sure to pass along your feedback to the team about your confusion around the messaging. I hope you've gotten your answer at this point, but let me know if you have any more.

It is your home theater product (Playbar, Playbase or Beam) that will determine your setup’s AirPlay 2 compatibility, as that device controls the room.
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Avid Contributor III
August 11, 2018
I have two Sonos setups, one at home and one at a church with no internet connection. The latter is useless – a complete waste of money since Sonos upgraded the App with a feature that forces an internet connection before it will work. Everything worked well for years and then – poof – useless!
So now I’m reading about the Airplay2 and am wondering if I may be able to get around my issue. I’m reaching out and asking the question, if I buy a Play One and connect to that and then group that (if that’s the term), with the Playbar, can I then use my iPad to play music via iTunes, which resides on a Macmini. I used to be able to do exactly this (as I said above), and I’m wondering, since I won’t be using the rubbish Sonos app any more, but the iPad, that this may be a workaround? Anyone got any clear idea please or have I got this all backwards?
August 11, 2018
No I thi nk this is misguided in many ways. The main thing is that you do not need to be connected to the internet to play locally sourced music. You DO need to be connected in order to update, and you cannot add a new speaker without updating. You could potentially use a mobile hotspot to provide a temporary link allowing you to update and just go back to doing what you did before. That might need you to reset your system and set up as a new system, which would mean losing your playlists and more. So please clarify if that would be a problem and we can consider further.
Paulw123
Virtuoso
August 11, 2018
I guess you have upgraded your sonos app at home, and hence all your sonos home products. The sonos player in your church now needs updating as well to the same release as the app you are trying to control it with. You need to bring it home where it can connect to the internet to update. Then take it back to the church again. This probably won't be a painless exercise though.....
Do you have a router at the church it connects to? or do you use the line in of a PLAY5 ?
Avid Contributor III
August 11, 2018
Been there - done that guys. Read this post of 5 months ago; you are both wrong.
https://en.community.sonos.com/setting-up-sonos-228990/get-rid-of-the-annoying-update-request-6802672
BELIEVE ME PLEASE - I'll happily pay your airfare to NZ to fix this if I thought for a nano second you could do it. It isn't possible. So, moving on...can anyone please tell me help me with my query. Thank you.
Paulw123
Virtuoso
August 11, 2018
Mr Richard, why have you jumped onto this thread. You need to start a new one and ask for a sonos employee like Ryan for help.
Have you contacted sonos support?
I do not know if sonos has changed to only work with an internet connection or not.
August 11, 2018
I do not know if sonos has changed to only work with an internet connection or not.They haven't, rest assured. I have just disconnected my router from the internet and local content played happily, as expected.
August 11, 2018
Been there - done that guys. Read this post of 5 months ago; you are both wrong.
https://en.community.sonos.com/setting-up-sonos-228990/get-rid-of-the-annoying-update-request-6802672
BELIEVE ME PLEASE - I'll happily pay your airfare to NZ to fix this if I thought for a nano second you could do it. It isn't possible. So, moving on...can anyone please tell me help me with my query. Thank you.
You are simply wrong. If there is a mobile signal you could get your system working like this:
1. Factory reset all Sonos speakers in the church setup (accepting that playlists etc will be lost)
2. Using your mobile to provide a hotspot, do a standard new Sonos system setup. You will have to use another device to act as controller, the phone cannot do this while acting as hotspot. I suggest you uninstall and reinstall the latest app version on this controller. I guess you would use the Mac, in which case your music stored there would be available.
3. Set up Sonos music library (if not done as part of system setup anyway)
4. You could then play music stored locally as before. You won't be using any mobile data when playing local content.

You could afterwards transfer the LAN responsibilities to a router. A travel router with an Ethernet port would be best. As stated in my earlier post, I have been playing local music without difficulty today, having disconnected the internet.

I am sure you will dismiss this with some sort of rude comment, but it is a genuine attempt to help.