Ace

I also use the Sonos Ace with a ‘Sonos Port’ S/PDIF digital-out to a Fiio BTA30 Pro Bluetooth Transmitter and that provides access to all Sonos music/audio sources including Sonos Radio etc. using  Apt-X HD audio, so that saves me using mobile devices and other 3rd Party Apps whilst at Home and it means that playback lasts around 30 hours too.

IMO Ace limited battery life is a poor excuse. Nobody wears their headphones for 30 hrs straight.  Charging them when the battery gets down to 20-25 percent ( or for techies.  What ever level optimizes long term battery health) isn’t such a big deal for the happiness of a devoted community. I was going to purchase 2 pairs but when i read the first reviews and saw the “bait and switch” I didn’t. Even w the current price reduction, I fear ( and hope) that a newer model will become available that will act like any Sonos should.  I’ll wait. As I’m sure many others are (but we won’t wait too long) 

Don't buy them, it is a piece of crap, again my is out of sync, unusable! Then reason I buy more expensive system so I don't have to trickle, I need a system that is just plug and play. Maybe they can sell this by IKEA instead, just don't forget to include the Alan key....

Overall, I was very satisfied w my pre-Ace systems. The app snafu wasn’t as big a deal for me as it seems to be for other users.  I remain crestfallen that Sonos leadership doesn’t appear to be very plussed to have failed to provide for their promises on the WiFi Ace.  I put off purchases of other manufacturers products while waiting for the Ace.  In my line of work, (surgeon) you don’t make promises that you can’t keep. I still retain some hope that they will figure out a way to make good ( decreasing the price just doesn’t cut it). I have a lot of money invested in hi def audio that the current Ace just doesn’t do justice to.  

This was the only reason for the product to exist imo and they failed to provide it. The value that the Ace provides just isnt there IMO as the other companies already do it as good or better. I’m going to wait for AirPod Max2 which will be way better than ace I predict or get the Sony’s on the cheap at Black Friday. 

I have a legacy Bryston amp and preamp / Meadowlark Heron Hot Rod system in my workout room that I just added the Fiios BTA30pro to to stream from my hi def player.   It works great but if I went w the Sonos Port / BTA30 Pro at both houses and bought 2 Aces (purely for convenience sake - 2 houses - first world rich guy problems)  It would inflate what I’m willing to spend. Maybe I’ll dip my toes in and just buy 1 Port/Ace and see. But I’m still disappointed and kind of resent having to make a patch when the expectations were set so high. 

Wish I could figure out what your problem is, and what promise sonos hasn't kept. The major complaint is you have to use BT to access any source not playing through a connectable soundbar? Not critical just curious.

All the pre-release content hype was  that the Ace Headphones would have Wi-Fi connection just like the speakers (allowing for higher bit rates). Failure to meet this commitment (with the excuse of insufficient battery power) and substituting Bluetooth (which even now w the better codecs is just not the same) was a big disappointment to those of us who were loyally waiting.  My prior posts are self explanatory. I remain hopeful that Sonos will make good, but I would have preferred that they held off Ace release until they figured it all out. Even if it meant that I had to recharge more frequently. Didn’t think you were critical. Hope this explains.  I realize that everyone has their own opinion, just sharing mine. 

I haven’t seen anywhere where Sonos have made the excuse of battery power - after all isn’t the ‘TV Audio Swap’ a 5Ghz ad-hoc bonded connection to the soundbar for TV audio in sync with the video on screen? - I can’t see why though that Sonos can’t do a similar thing and have ‘Music Audio Swap’ too, but I’m not sure my own hearing will be able to tell the difference between lossless wireless audio and Bluetooth Apt-X HD audio, which sounds pretty good to me, even in comparison to direct wired 24/48 ALAC lossless audio.