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I am so disappointed by the fact that I can’t have a single system (fitting my apartment size) that allow me to take full advantage of both home theatre as well as music playing capabilities of the devices I own.

  1. I would argue creating a toggle shutting down the soundbar is doable in this time and age, but from what I have read in the forums. It clearly is not.
  2. having gone over a vast number of threads these solutions seem like an amazing option to create an alternative for those of us who either for financial is logistical reasons cannot afford to keep additional 2 or more speakers at home.

Please, consider this an upvote to what’s most likely has already been posted. Since it’s time to push ALL OF THE Company’s ENERGY INTO FIXING - AND ENHANCING, APP interface and overall experience for those of us who have trusted Sonos with their money, I wish to make it a point to remind the engineers and management about these ideas.

 

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I think a toggle that's a shortcut for unpairing them and creating a new room for a stereo pair is probably too fraught, because the speakers would have to jump between wireless networks and pair with each other every time that happens. Or they'd need the speakers to be able to connect to both networks at the same time, which may be a hardware limitation. There's also a lot more UI and UX work that would need to be done to make that process clean and handle failures.

What would probably be far easier is to just add a third Music Playback setting, so there's:

  • Ambient

  • Full

  • Surrounds Only

The last option would basically just not play anything through the soundbar during stereo music playback.

The limitations would be:

  • It wouldn't make the soundbar available as a separate speaker again.

  • You would presumably still not be able to use the surround's Line-in or Bluetooth.

  • There couldn't be a separate dedicated Trueplay configuration for stereo.

But it should be much easier to implement, because:

  • There'd be no change to the system layout.

  • The speakers won't need to jump between wireless networks or maintain two connections.

  • There'd be no need to decide what happens with any Sub.

  • Almost no UI or UX work would be required.

Making use of the front driver in the surrounds when playing music would need to be a separate change that would apply to the existing Full mode as well, but I don't know what the hold up is there or whether it would be more difficult to implement. If they could do both I think that would satisfy most people while pretty much entirely avoiding the need to change to the app UI.

 

Best answer by Airgetlam

Additional ‘options’ like drop downs are a perceived ‘more complex UI’ feature, something I feel are ant odds with Sonos’ desire to sell and easily operate for ‘my mother’. Great for power users like us, but perhaps (and I’m no expert here) confusing for others. 

But that’s a guess, since I don’t, and have never worked for Sonos. 

 

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buzz
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  • March 27, 2025

A fairly easy implementation would be to simply mute the soundbar.


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  • March 27, 2025

@buzz Good point, provided it does not affect where the power and bass/treble distribution goes from the sub for example.

also, consider that not all speakers are in play when combined with SB (Fives turn off side speakers,  300s turn off front drivers, etc), so there is need to change the sound “environment” rather than simply mute the SB


106rallye
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  • March 27, 2025

Would another Trueplay profile be needed when speakers that are set up as surrounds could temporarily bed designated as a stereo set (be it by a setting to do so or just by muting the soundbar)?


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  • March 27, 2025

@106rallye 

Yeah, which also points to the fact that a separation via software needs to be considered in the fix, not simply mute the soundbar.

However, the very feature to be able to store a previous True Play setting as well as specific ones for various placements have been requested by some users as well. To be able to easier navigate some regular changes.

 


Airgetlam
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  • March 27, 2025

Which would likely require additional memory space, something that might be at a premium on some devices, due to original manufacturing constraints.

Not arguing that it wouldn’t be nice, it just might be harder than expected to properly implement across all devices. 


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  • March 27, 2025

@Airgetlam agreed.

but the very least there could be a drop down kind of EQ settings. For example for movies I always turn up the bass (when not a dialogue centered production), for rock I also add bass but less, and for jazz I need to reduce the bass… I go about it every time. Would be nice to just choose a saved setting :-/


Airgetlam
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  • March 27, 2025

Additional ‘options’ like drop downs are a perceived ‘more complex UI’ feature, something I feel are ant odds with Sonos’ desire to sell and easily operate for ‘my mother’. Great for power users like us, but perhaps (and I’m no expert here) confusing for others. 

But that’s a guess, since I don’t, and have never worked for Sonos. 

 


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  • March 27, 2025

So very true. The plug and play culture has benefits, but by eliminating more advanced features, like by turning on “expert mode” reduces the customer base. I really like the sound quality of what I got for the value, but still feel uneasy when contemplating any “additions” to the system and thinking of moving to “the old dogs” for audio experience in other rooms. 

There is a lot of potential at Sonos, but it seems I’ll-steered, especially as of late. I do my fingers cursed, however. People as such hardly change but.. they get replaced by people with different mindset 🤣😈

 

 


Airgetlam
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  • March 27, 2025

I’d suggest that ill steered may be too early to tell, there hasn’t been enough time for a ‘new’ direction to become clear, if indeed there is one. My years in business situations suggest pivots take time. And if they’re smaller, are harder to perceive. But I judge any company mostly on what they have currently, not what they could be. I hope for change, but find setting my expectations to be not always what I want. Because the things I expect are not always ‘easy’ to do, or potentially not possible. This may come as a result of my gaming background, where lots of players would ask for various things, which, when investigate (due diligence, after all) ended up being either impossible, or requiring man years of rewrites of code. Things that would help ‘them’ but not 95% of the customer base. And my responsibility was to maximize profit, not cater to individual needs. It wasn’t always fun. I could see value in the end, but the cost of getting to that end was too high. 

You have me waxing poetic. Sure, it’s just code, but changes aren’t always easy, and may not ‘show’ as being restricted by earlier decisions, which may have been correct at the time. Running ecosystems is a challenge. 


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  • March 27, 2025

@Airgetlam 

”I hope for change, but find setting my expectations to be not always what I want. Because the things I expect are not always ‘easy’ to do, or potentially not possible.”

I am there with you. My background is medial and I have same issues with changing directions treatment-wise. Surgeons are set I t whir ways of doing things, and surgeons in general are a separate breed, omitting all that comes before surgery. Orthopaedic procedures, save for trauma, would not be necessary for most part. If we are better and moved on a regular basis. It’s hard to see that all stems from microcirculation and tissue nutrition.

 

still, I know what you mean by gamers requests and the end result, I have been on the other end of that conversation.. asking for features to get my Wizard be able to use 2 crossbows since an orb is consideeed a weapon but you can only have a weapon in one slot unless you are a demon hunter. In that case it would suffice to change the slot properties in equipment but alas.. not that simple :-)

 

I do manage my expectations, but never stay silent when ideas come. Who know, sometime there would be someone who would take it as “side project” and possibly create a workaround if not an internalised solution. 


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