Grand Maestro

Suggestion: Disable SonosNet so un-wired Sonos use WiFi instead

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Looking at my Sonos setup and considering the new non-SonosNet 100 and 300 speakers (applies to the Roam and Move too.) If I added them I’d now have to have both a WiFi channel and a SonosNet channel in my home.

If I had the ability to switch off just the SonosNet function on wired Sonos, but not the whole radio, then my non-wired SonosNet capable speakers would connect to WiFi instead, eliminating the need for the SonosNet channel.

I do have the option to remove the Ethernet from my wired Sonos to disable SonosNet but I’d really prefer to keep them wired for the best possible connection.

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ratty

Put the Eras on 5GHz.

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eatzaylove

Collaborator I

Put the Eras on 5GHz.

Not a fix.

ratty

Put the Eras on 5GHz.

Not a fix.

Not a fix for what?

Stanley_4Author

Grand Maestro

Set to 5 GHz? Since my setup has only a single SSID for both frequency bands is that possible?

I’ve read the 300 manual a couple times and I don’t see anything there on selecting a WiFi band for them to use and I don’t have one to experiment with. Splitting the current SSID for 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz would be less than optimal for my other devices.

The 2.4 GHz band is getting crowded around here and being able to use just one 2.4 GHz WiFi channel would be nice, now I have SonosNet on the best channel and my WiFi on the second best one. Not having Sonos using a channel for SonosNet when it is not needed would be the best solution for me.

My current WiFi is 802.11ac but I’m looking at 802.11ax options, either WiFi 6 or 6E as an upgrade later this year. I might try pulling the Ethernet connections at that time and see if the new gear gives me as stable a system as SonosNet does now but between all the devices using WiFi here the WiFi only option was not as stable last time I tried it.

Thinking as I post this, I might also consider keeping my current .11ac AP active on what is now my SonosNet channel and pulling the Ethernet to eliminate the SonosNet use and see how stable that is. Still would mean using 2 of the 2.4 GHz channels, using 2 of the 5 GHz ones wouldn’t be an issue.

The more I think the better the option to disable SonosNet on wired Sonos seems the cleanest option.

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Outburst

Enthusiast II

Why wouldn’t you want to simply turn off the the radios? I mean that would achieve what you want or not? I’m not sure what benefit you have if the radios of the wired units are still turned on.

ratty

If SonosNet needs to be retained then one can always get a small 5GHz AP to service the Eras and wire it to the nearest (non-Era) Sonos device, whether that be wireless or wired.

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craigski

Local Superstar

My own experience is that Sonos works just as well, with added benefits (see below), on a WiFi vs SonosNet, which contradicts what I originally anticipated before disabling the switch ports that the Sonos devices are connected to.

Depending what WiFi system you have or upgrading to, you should get better visibility of the network devices and associated stats to help optimise the network vs the old school Sonos STP Network Matrix.

The 2.4Ghz channel that was used by SonosNet will become available for you to use on your WiFi in addition to the existing channel(s) being used.

ratty

Indeed. I was pleasantly surprised to find that Sonos worked distinctly better on a WiFi mesh. The bands are split and all Sonos units forced to use 5GHz, save for the home theatre master players. In fact the latter are the only devices I have which still need 2.4GHz WiFi. (There’s a bunch of Zigbee stuff on 2.4GHz, gatewayed separately.)

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craigski

Local Superstar

Set to 5 GHz? Since my setup has only a single SSID for both frequency bands is that possible?

I’ve read the 300 manual a couple times and I don’t see anything there on selecting a WiFi band for them to use and I don’t have one to experiment with. Splitting the current SSID for 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz would be less than optimal for my other devices.

Here is a complete list of Sonos devices. If a device supports 5GHz, and 5GHz is available it will connect to 5GHz vs 2.4GHz on the same SSID.

https://support.sonos.com/en-gb/article/supported-wifi-modes-and-security-standards-for-sonos-products

I run same SSID for 2.4 & 5 (best practice), and my Sonos devices that support 5GHz are all connected to 5GHz.

ratty

If a device supports 5GHz, and 5GHz is available it will connect to 5GHz vs 2.4GHz on the same SSID.

It should, but sometimes it doesn’t.

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