Grand Maestro

Suggestion: Disable SonosNet so un-wired Sonos use WiFi instead

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Looking at my Sonos setup and considering the new non-SonosNet 100 and 300 speakers (applies to the Roam and Move too.) If I added them I’d now have to have both a WiFi channel and a SonosNet channel in my home.

If I had the ability to switch off just the SonosNet function on wired Sonos, but not the whole radio, then my non-wired SonosNet capable speakers would connect to WiFi instead, eliminating the need for the SonosNet channel.

I do have the option to remove the Ethernet from my wired Sonos to disable SonosNet but I’d really prefer to keep them wired for the best possible connection.

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craigski

Local Superstar

If a device supports 5GHz, and 5GHz is available it will connect to 5GHz vs 2.4GHz on the same SSID.

It should, but sometimes it doesn’t.

When I said ‘available’, I mean there is a strong enough signal available for the client to connect to. If it doesn’t connect, then it will connect to 2.4GHz, if available on the SSID. I’m not sure what the threshold is on Sonos devices, I would guess around -70dBm.

Stanley_4Author

Grand Maestro

Why wouldn’t you want to simply turn off the the radios? I mean that would achieve what you want or not? I’m not sure what benefit you have if the radios of the wired units are still turned on.

If I turn off the radio I also disconnect the Surrounds and Sub.

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craigski

Local Superstar

If a device supports 5GHz, and 5GHz is available it will connect to 5GHz vs 2.4GHz on the same SSID.

It should, but sometimes it doesn’t.

I did an experiment earlier. I had iPhone and Roam with excellent 5GHz signal inside, took both outside, both re-connected to excellent 2.4GHz band, Roam was streaming, no interruption due to band change, all as expected.

I returned inside, iPhone reconnected to 5GHz, but Roam stayed on 2.4GHz, even when paused. I don’t have band steering enabled, as I prefer the clients to make their own decisions.

Conclusion: We were both correct, but maybe @ratty was very slightly more correct than me. 😀

Stanley_4Author

Grand Maestro

This is interesting and giving me some good options.

Still, for me it would be nice to be able to let all my other Sonos connect on the 5 GHz WiFi while still keeping the Arc/Beams wired for the better stability and to reduce the traffic on 2.4 GHz.

Looking at craigski’s list above my currently wired Arc and Beams seem to be the only Sonos I have needing 2.4 GHz so un-wiring may be a workable option.

ratty

I did an experiment earlier. I had iPhone and Roam with excellent 5GHz signal inside, took both outside, both re-connected to excellent 2.4GHz band, Roam was streaming, no interruption due to band change, all as expected.

I returned inside, iPhone reconnected to 5GHz, but Roam stayed on 2.4GHz, even when paused. I don’t have band steering enabled, as I prefer the clients to make their own decisions.

Conclusion: We were both correct, but maybe @ratty was very slightly more correct than me. 😀

The Roam fell off the 5GHz SSID when out of range, and the 2.4GHz SSID was the only one it could see.

Moving back inside the Roam didn’t … well ... ‘roam’ back onto the 5GHz SSID. This is known behaviour. You’d have needed to reboot it.

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craigski

Local Superstar

What video streaming hardware/source(s) do you use, and are they wired or wireless?

ratty

What video streaming hardware/source(s) do you use, and are they wired or wireless?

Not sure who the question was addressed to, but the answer’s both. The BT IPTV box is wired (via EoP); FireStick and Sony Bravia stream all the usual suspects (Amazon, Apple TV+, etc) in 4K wirelessly.

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craigski

Local Superstar

I did an experiment earlier. I had iPhone and Roam with excellent 5GHz signal inside, took both outside, both re-connected to excellent 2.4GHz band, Roam was streaming, no interruption due to band change, all as expected.

I returned inside, iPhone reconnected to 5GHz, but Roam stayed on 2.4GHz, even when paused. I don’t have band steering enabled, as I prefer the clients to make their own decisions.

Conclusion: We were both correct, but maybe @ratty was very slightly more correct than me. 😀

The Roam fell off the 5GHz SSID when out of range, and the 2.4GHz SSID was the only one it could see.

Moving back inside the Roam didn’t … well ... ‘roam’ back onto the 5GHz SSID. This is known behaviour. You’d have needed to reboot it.

Same SSID, same AP. The Roam should ‘roam’ back to 5GHz though, it may be known behaviour, but it is it correct behaviour for a device that is designed to ‘roam’?

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craigski

Local Superstar

What video streaming hardware/source(s) do you use, and are they wired or wireless?

Not sure who the question was addressed to, but the answer’s both. The BT IPTV box is wired (via EoP); FireStick and Sony Bravia stream all the usual suspects (Amazon, Apple TV+, etc) in 4K wirelessly.

Sorry, was directed to OP Stanley. I was suggesting that video, especially 4k devices should be wired if possible, that will help with reducing wireless traffic that he was concerned about.

ratty

I did an experiment earlier. I had iPhone and Roam with excellent 5GHz signal inside, took both outside, both re-connected to excellent 2.4GHz band, Roam was streaming, no interruption due to band change, all as expected.

I returned inside, iPhone reconnected to 5GHz, but Roam stayed on 2.4GHz, even when paused. I don’t have band steering enabled, as I prefer the clients to make their own decisions.

Conclusion: We were both correct, but maybe @ratty was very slightly more correct than me. 😀

The Roam fell off the 5GHz SSID when out of range, and the 2.4GHz SSID was the only one it could see.

Moving back inside the Roam didn’t … well ... ‘roam’ back onto the 5GHz SSID. This is known behaviour. You’d have needed to reboot it.

Same SSID, same AP. The Roam should ‘roam’ back to 5GHz though, it may be known behaviour, but it is it correct behaviour for a device that is designed to ‘roam’?

Correct? No. By design? Evidently. The Roam won’t roam onto a much stronger AP, broadcasting the same SSID, same band/channel. The original signal has to fall below a certain threshold before the Roam will detach.

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