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Bumper
February 6, 2024

Sonos v16

With the 16.0 update indicating a major update to the system, the release notes don’t really say anything. Come on Sonos do better! 
 

Does anyone have any insight?

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In this update:

  • Bug fixes and performance enhancements.
 

System requirements changes:

  • The Sonos app will no longer receive updates on the following operating systems. The app can still be used to control commonly-used features.
    • iOS 14 and 15
    • iPadOS 14 and 15

 

System requirements

  • Android 8.0 or later
  • iOS 16 or later
  • iPadOS 16 or later
  • macOS 10.12 or later
  • Windows 8 or later
  • Fire OS 7 and higher

 

 

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31 replies

melvimbe
February 7, 2024

My suspicion is that there were multiple issues. The fix worked for those with one specific problem, but not those with another connection issue. But if those folks don’t submit a diagnostic, and contact Sonos, we will never know. 

 

That could be part of the reason why Sonos might be hesitant to provide more detail in release notes.   If the bluetooth issue, or any other issue, is only fixed in certain circumstances, or they are not 100% sure it’s fixed for everyone, than they might not want to try an explain that in release notes.  Or, the expect that such information will just serve to a point of complaint for certain users.  Why did you fix this issue and not my issue?  Etc.

I’m not saying that I wouldn’t like more details in release notes personally, just trying to speculate on why.

Danny
Dogdad
Headliner III
February 7, 2024

With the 16.0 update indicating a major update to the system, the release notes don’t really say anything. Come on Sonos do better! 
 

Does anyone have any insight?

—————

In this update:

  • Bug fixes and performance enhancements.
 

System requirements changes:

  • The Sonos app will no longer receive updates on the following operating systems. The app can still be used to control commonly-used features.
    • iOS 14 and 15
    • iPadOS 14 and 15

 

System requirements

  • Android 8.0 or later
  • iOS 16 or later
  • iPadOS 16 or later
  • macOS 10.12 or later
  • Windows 8 or later
  • Fire OS 7 and higher

 

 

Shouldn’t be surprising. Sonos rarely ever tells us what the bug fixes or enhancements are…always the same stupid generic echo statement. One of the downfalls of Sonos to me. 

February 7, 2024

Hopefully it may have fixed the issues with Connect:Amps dropping out — I have 3 of those, so I hope so.  I have to go through the process of disconnecting my Play:1s as surrounds from the Beam as the update fails every time without doing this.   For years I never had any issues but as time goes by they seem to becoming more numerous with my entire setup.  

Bumper
BumperAuthor
February 7, 2024

My suspicion is that there were multiple issues. The fix worked for those with one specific problem, but not those with another connection issue. But if those folks don’t submit a diagnostic, and contact Sonos, we will never know. 

 

That could be part of the reason why Sonos might be hesitant to provide more detail in release notes.   If the bluetooth issue, or any other issue, is only fixed in certain circumstances, or they are not 100% sure it’s fixed for everyone, than they might not want to try an explain that in release notes.  Or, the expect that such information will just serve to a point of complaint for certain users.  Why did you fix this issue and not my issue?  Etc.

I’m not saying that I wouldn’t like more details in release notes personally, just trying to speculate on why.

 

Not sure if this link will work to the correct post, but a sonos employee has posted that the bluetooth sound issue is confirmed fixed.

 

 

February 7, 2024

Hopefully it may have fixed the issues with Connect:Amps dropping out

Is your issue off topic for this release or not? I forget now!

So you gents are now on 16; I am happy running 11.12 on S1 and all is good at my end:-)

Ummagumma
Trending Lyricist II
February 7, 2024

I've requested a reboot option on the app but disappointed again to see it's not been added with this update. This would save owner's with the loss of connection issues having to do a complete power cycle.

How would a remote reboot option work if the network connection to the device had been lost?

What I mean by losing connection is that the TV switches to built in speakers and Sonos is no longer  available on the TV without doing a power cycle. 

I'll see you on the darkside of the moon
ratty
February 7, 2024

I've requested a reboot option on the app but disappointed again to see it's not been added with this update. This would save owner's with the loss of connection issues having to do a complete power cycle.

How would a remote reboot option work if the network connection to the device had been lost?

What I mean by losing connection is that the TV switches to built in speakers and Sonos is no longer  available on the TV without doing a power cycle. 

Agreed, that could potentially be a valid use case. But it would be addressing the effect rather than the cause, which is typically a CEC fight between devices connected to the TV. Disable CEC on the other devices and usually the TV will retain the correct CEC state and send audio to the Sonos device.

Ummagumma
Trending Lyricist II
February 7, 2024

I've requested a reboot option on the app but disappointed again to see it's not been added with this update. This would save owner's with the loss of connection issues having to do a complete power cycle.

How would a remote reboot option work if the network connection to the device had been lost?

What I mean by losing connection is that the TV switches to built in speakers and Sonos is no longer  available on the TV without doing a power cycle. 

Agreed, that could potentially be a valid use case. But it would be addressing the effect rather than the cause, which is typically a CEC fight between devices connected to the TV. Disable CEC on the other devices and usually the TV will retain the correct CEC state.

I have a firestick in HDMI 1 that is connected via a Lindy CEC free adaptor 

I'll see you on the darkside of the moon
ratty
February 7, 2024

I've requested a reboot option on the app but disappointed again to see it's not been added with this update. This would save owner's with the loss of connection issues having to do a complete power cycle.

How would a remote reboot option work if the network connection to the device had been lost?

What I mean by losing connection is that the TV switches to built in speakers and Sonos is no longer  available on the TV without doing a power cycle. 

Agreed, that could potentially be a valid use case. But it would be addressing the effect rather than the cause, which is typically a CEC fight between devices connected to the TV. Disable CEC on the other devices and usually the TV will retain the correct CEC state.

I have a firestick in HDMI 1 that is connected via a Lindy CEC free adaptor 

Do you turn the TV off at the wall or leave it in standby?

Ummagumma
Trending Lyricist II
February 7, 2024

I've requested a reboot option on the app but disappointed again to see it's not been added with this update. This would save owner's with the loss of connection issues having to do a complete power cycle.

How would a remote reboot option work if the network connection to the device had been lost?

What I mean by losing connection is that the TV switches to built in speakers and Sonos is no longer  available on the TV without doing a power cycle. 

Agreed, that could potentially be a valid use case. But it would be addressing the effect rather than the cause, which is typically a CEC fight between devices connected to the TV. Disable CEC on the other devices and usually the TV will retain the correct CEC state.

I have a firestick in HDMI 1 that is connected via a Lindy CEC free adaptor 

Do you turn the TV off at the wall or leave it in standby?

I  recently swapped the Firestick from HDMI 2 to HDMI 1 as an experiment and left everything in stand by. The system was stable for over a week without the need to power cycle.

After the Sonos 16.0 update I switched on from standby this morning and it didn't connect to Sonos.

So it looks like I have no choice but to power down at night again. 

This is why I believe a reboot option would be helpful.

I'll see you on the darkside of the moon