Chromatic Producer I

SONOS S2 app need to be updated ASAP

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Will we one day be able to take full advantage of our purchase and have the possibility of increasing the volume to 110% or 120% when the music recording is weaker?

I use 5 devices (2x sonos five and 2x sonos one + sub) and I find that the sound is 2X LESS LOUDER than normal when I listen to Classical music (piano), for example recordings by Frederic Chopin, Beethoven , etc. Don't say the recording is bad I just use 100% TOP quality FLAC with my Tidal PREMIUM hifi loseless subscription, most of this music is often MASTER quality.

This happens not only with classical music but also with other kinds of music. It's really shocking to have an app that is no more reliable than that. The quality of Sonos speakers is EXCEPTIONAL but they are VERY POORLY USED with an application like SONOS S2. I feel my hands tied with this bad application, and the search mode is not good at all, if you forget a letter it cannot find any songs, low-end application, and so on!

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jgatie

You do realize pushing the volume to 20% over the capability of the amplifier causes distortion, regardless of the level of the source material, right?

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Thewizard2000Author

Chromatic Producer I

Lol pushing volume to 110% or 120% will not produce distortion with a weaker recording, this is just an extra boost needed to enjoy fully the capacity of the device. I have fully used my Sonos system since over 1 year and a half…every day and I know its maximum level and believe me on a lot of music it is largely underused because that. Vlc one of the most reliable and top rated audio player on the world have this feature, so what, are they all idiots?

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Kumar

So how would this be done in an old school system? Have an afterburner setting past a 100% volume level knob detent? :grin:

Or is this only a digital benefit some offer?!

jgatie

Lol pushing volume to 110% or 120% will not produce distortion with a weaker recording, this is just an extra boost needed to enjoy fully the capacity of the device. I have fully used my Sonos system since over 1 year and a half…every day and I know its maximum level and believe me on a lot of music it is largely underused because that. Vlc one of the most reliable and top rated audio player on the world have this feature, so what, are they all idiots?

When did VLC start making audio hardware? LOL!

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Kumar

Seriously though - I rarely listen to classical, but even when I do, I have never needed to run any Sonos kit be it a speaker or Connect Amp, at 100%. It would be painfully loud. For all my usual listening of Jazz/Blues via a NAS or streaming services, I have never crossed 90%.

Is your listening position too far away from your speakers? Reducing that distance may be a more sensible as well as a probably neighbour friendly answer.

ratty

The search facilities are what's provided by the streaming service. Some tolerate misspellings, some don't.

As for the "bad" Sonos application, why not cast directly from the Tidal app instead. The Sonos speakers still won't render MQA of course. Tidal’s insistence on encoding with MQA could however have compromised the sound.

One final thought: the Sonos Volume Limit is not set is it?

106rallye

You state: ‘I use 5 devices (2x sonos five and 2x sonos one + sub) and I find that the sound is 2X LESS LOUDER than normal when I listen to Classical music (piano), for example recordings by Frederic Chopin, Beethoven , etc. Don't say the recording is bad I just use 100% TOP quality FLAC with my Tidal PREMIUM hifi loseless subscription, most of this music is often MASTER quality.’

Could you define ‘normal’ in this sense?

ratty

Classical works typically have a lower average loudness, in order to accommodate a greater dynamic range.

FWIW googling “tidal quieter” throws up quite a few relevant hits. Does the problem reproduce with other lossless services such as Deezer or Qobuz? Personally I’d choose any service other than Tidal anyway given their devotion to MQA, a format that’s attracted a lot of criticism.