My great Vinyl dilemma: the line in source level Bug and sonos lack of response

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So I am ecstatic over using a new play 5 gen 2 as my sweet little hi fi compact setup in my bedroom for playing vinyl and digital there. sonos does a better job translating vinyl to the digital realm and back than any other sub $1000 system. I bought and returned a few, including the Bluesound. play 5 gen 2 a BIG step up in SQ.

But I now have a 2 month problem that Sonos is aware of and won’t fix. my turntable has always had better than cd fidelity at source level set to level 9. well now level 9 is with a bug and won’t work. levels 1-8 work fine, but at a cost of lower fidelity from the digital volume reduction, making it pointless to spin records. yes, level 10 is still operative, but only if you select 9. selecting 10 leaves you at the last level you were on. thus 9 is now skipped altogether. the end result is if you toggle from 8 to 9, what is really happening is (listening) you are going from 8 to 10. closing app and reopening verifies all this.

why the big deal? because level 10 distorts with my albums and 8 or less sacrifices fidelity. this all started about 2 months ago.

so...I have emailed and called Sonos REPEATEDLY about this problem. they keep giving a standard line that it’s identified as a bug to fix and prioritized to fix it. but after one month of calls and emails (they know me well now) nothing fixed. finally in exasperation I asked for an engineer to call me. after no less than 3 separate requests for this, finally a Kevin C. from software engineering calls me. he’s very nice, but explains that he cannot divulge where the team is in the process. he states essentially he’s not allowed. when I stated that I just wanted to know if the bug will be fixed in a month or two more, he states he can’t tell me. when I asked if he can reassure me that it will EVER get fixed, he states he cannot.

so I am going to the Community on this. Is ANYONE else observing this bug and bothered by it enough to speak up here? PLEASE POST HERE IF YOU FEEL THE WAY I DO ABOUT THIS BUG. I clearly need a louder megaphone to move the needle on this issue.

Thanks to all!

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Ryan SAnswer

Retired Sonos Staff

Hey Tlcocks, I just checked in for you with the team on that ticket and the status. It is still being investigated and worked on. I know it’s frustrating not having an ETA or not knowing what the exact status is, but those things can change and we don’t want to give an ETA that isn’t definite. The right team is on it, but they have other things on their plate as well. The support team will make sure to let you know when it’s resolved, but they can’t keep you updated with every change that the ticket goes through.

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G9010086,

if you have the same program bug we’ve been talking about here, you’ll access level 10 by selecting level 9. you’ll hear the double step-up in volume, but you’ll have to back up in the app 2 screens to see the source level set to where it really is at 10. in all of this, level 9 is not available. selecting level 10 simply keeps you on the previous level you were on. but there is no level 9 until Sonos fixes this bug.

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and I continue to find that even for many 80’s albums I own, level 9 would be optimal, as 10 is slightly distorted on some passages, while 8 leaves me wanting a little more pre amp juice, loosely speaking. for most albums I own, I've verified that compared to their digital versions on Qobuz or Tidal, 8 is quieter and 10 is louder. yes, I can happily listen at 8 when 10 distorts, but the perfectionist in me does very much want this feature fully functioning again.

bockersjv

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Mine is stuck on 1. I have to select 10 for my turntable every time I want to play something. It reverts to 10 when I change the source again!

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shouldn’t be stuck on 1, select 9. then close and reopen the app. should be on 10

bockersjv

Local Superstar

I’ll give that a try later. Thanks

chickentender

My Connect has done this for quite some time. Luckily, I don’t need level 9.
Incidentally (months later, obviously) though I read through this thread and there were multiple posts listing a component here and a component there, I don't have a clear picture of your signal chain or even what turntable and pre you’re running to the Play5. Does your pre not have a trim adjustment? Or alternatively adding gain and then adjusting the Sonos line sensitivity lower? My Connect receives line-levels best all the way down at between 2 and 4. This is naturally all relative to particular setups, but given the bits of kit you’ve listed off, surely there is a way around this further back in the chain than the Sonos’ input sensitivity, no?

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No with Rega Fono MM Mk3 there is now trim adjustment

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TlcocksAuthor

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NO trim adjustments. Sorry

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Edward or Ryan,