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Ace Headphones - no system integration !!

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No integration with my Sonos system !!!!!!!

We’ve all been waiting for headphones we can add to our Sonos systems like any other Sonos speaker product.

These new Ace headphones are just fancy bluetooth headphones - no better than Sony or Bose.

First the app upgrade disaster and now headphones that won’t work as part of an existing Sonos system.

Ridiculous!

It’s a “no purchase” from me!

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Ken_Griffiths

I guess there is the case too, where a high quality Apt-X HD/Lossless BT long range Transceiver can be used with a Sonos Port too, such as the Fiio BTA30 Pro - that will provide the ability to playback Sonos Radio on the Ace headphones. So it’s going to be doable, at least for Home use.

How much is a Port again? Plus 140 for the fiio, and all the extra wires and plugs. Hmmm?

Port is only $449 in my local currency. For me adding a port for aptx and an Arc for tv listening would not be something I would be willing to do😳. I’ll stick with my current setup, but if you go this route please let us know how it works for.

Ah okay - I have the Port and the Fiio BTA30 Pro and a 1Mii B03 Pro already — I use those with my existing Sony headphones - the only issue is I do not have Snapdragon Apt-X lossloss and the Ace is the first step towards that, but it’s not my primary reason for getting Ace anyway, but ‘Yes’, I’ll certainly let you know.

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Ken_Griffiths

Port is only $449 in my local currency. For me adding a port for aptx and an Arc for tv listening would not be something I would be willing to do😳. I’ll stick with my current setup, but if you go this route please let us know how it works for.

Also a Port/transceiver it’s not for TV listening, why would anyone do that, for obvious reasons? That’s where the Ace does seemingly come into its own with TV SoundSwap using a long press on the ’content’ button as outlined in the documentation. It’s likely using an ad-hoc 5Ghz connection similar to HT surrounds. It explains why the FCC filing shows that Ace has 2.4Ghx/5Ghz adapters onboard, or did I misread that filing?

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Greenland

Prodigy I

Well, yes of course, you can.

However, I did believe that Sonos offered an integrated coherent audio experience. They seem to have ditched that now. Maybe investing time and resources into making their speakers chromecast enabled would have been money better spent.

On your argument, what advantage does Sonos then have over alternative speaker systems for other audio sources - just Bluetooth or cast from the native app on your phone. Probably even more viable given the Sonos-Google grouping spat has now been decided in Google's favour.

What, Sonos won the Apoeal on May 4th 2024?

Hmm... Another report this week (now lost in the morass of Internet guff) claimed the grouping device issue had gone in Google's favour.

Who knows? If you attempt to read the Justia article, you really wonder if all that effort and performance by so many participants is a just and honest way for humans to earn a living. Talk about the US being a litiguous society!?

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Bumper

I guess there is the case too, where a high quality Apt-X HD/Lossless BT long range Transceiver can be used with a Sonos Port too, such as the Fiio BTA30 Pro - that will provide the ability to playback Sonos Radio on the Ace headphones. So it’s going to be doable, at least for Home use.

How much is a Port again? Plus 140 for the fiio, and all the extra wires and plugs. Hmmm?

Port is only $449 in my local currency. For me adding a port for aptx and an Arc for tv listening would not be something I would be willing to do😳. I’ll stick with my current setup, but if you go this route please let us know how it works for.

Ah okay - I have the Port and the Fiio BTA30 Pro and a 1Mii B03 Pro already — I use those with my existing Sony headphones - the only issue is I do not have Snapdragon Apt-X lossloss and the Ace is the first step towards that, but it’s not my primary reason for getting Ace anyway, but ‘Yes’, I’ll certainly let you know.

I was directing my comment at the other poster who was wondering how much Port costs. I figured you already own at least 1 🤣 I don’t think I can hear the difference between good lossy and lossless but I get going to extra lengths in pursuit of better sound.

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Turtle1234

Contributor II

I would have bought these if they integrated with Sonos system speakers -- but no sale on the present spec. Why would I buy these rather than --say --Sony ? Come on sonos you can do better than this.

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Ken_Griffiths

I was directing my comment at the other poster who was wondering how much Port costs. I figured you already own at least 1 🤣 I don’t think I can hear the difference between good lossy and lossless but I get going to extra lengths in pursuit of better sound.

Oh okay - no my ‘old’ ears are fine with 16/44 audio so the higher quality is probably lost on me, I guess. But as I mentioned, it’s not my main purpose for getting Ace - I want it for the TV SoundSwap and Spatial ‘head-tracking’ features referred to in the press articles. I am hoping that will be really good and just so much more convenient than the rigmarole I have to go through now to switch to using my TV with headphones… ‘bonding’ the headset to the Soundbar at the press of a switch on the headset just sounds like a ‘cool’ feature to me. How well it works however, remains to be seen.

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Ken_Griffiths

I would have bought these if they integrated with Sonos system speakers -- but no sale on the present spec. Why would I buy these rather than --say --Sony ? Come on sonos you can do better than this.

Perhaps because they support Qualcomm Snapdragon Sounds "lossless" audio might be a reason for some to buy the Ace…

I just want them for TV SoundSwap as mentioned in my previous post.

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Greenland

Prodigy I

I guess there is the case too, where a high quality Apt-X HD/Lossless BT long range Transceiver can be used with a Sonos Port too, such as the Fiio BTA30 Pro - that will provide the ability to playback Sonos Radio on the Ace headphones. So it’s going to be doable, at least for Home use.

How much is a Port again? Plus 140 for the fiio, and all the extra wires and plugs. Hmmm?

Port is only $449 in my local currency. For me adding a port for aptx and an Arc for tv listening would not be something I would be willing to do😳. I’ll stick with my current setup, but if you go this route please let us know how it works for.

Ah okay - I have the Port and the Fiio BTA30 Pro and a 1Mii B03 Pro already — I use those with my existing Sony headphones - the only issue is I do not have Snapdragon Apt-X lossloss and the Ace is the first step towards that, but it’s not my primary reason for getting Ace anyway, but ‘Yes’, I’ll certainly let you know.

I was directing my comment at the other poster who was wondering how much Port costs. I figured you already own at least 1 🤣 I don’t think I can hear the difference between good lossy and lossless but I get going to extra lengths in pursuit of better sound.

Aptx is not really an issue for voice. There's no doubt that Sonos has 2 USPs - the tightly integrated plug'n'play device ecosystem with good quality sound, and then the widest offering of music and media sources (far surpassing competitors).

It seems they are in grave danger of trashing both - departing from the core ecosystem, and then releasing software which currently makes access to music services either impossible or at best is a fathomless lottery whether it works.

Not a good situation to be in, I venture.

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Bumper

Sonos was also viewed as reliable and easy to use. This seems to have gone out the window as well. Trust takes years/decades to build, but literally days to completely trash.

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Ken_Griffiths

Little doubt the new Sonos App is here to stay and I’m sure it will improve with age. I like to keep my glass ‘full’, rather than ‘half empty’. Not that I’m currently having all that much trouble with the new App anyway.

Unlike many others, it seems …it does happily play all my MSP services and local library tracks to any/all my speakers. (Gosh even I’m now getting sick of mentioning these things and posting videos and screenshots etc. but it’s certainly true for my Home setup here).

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